Blackburn vs Barnsley matchday thread

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  1. stairfoot.red

    stairfoot.red Well-Known Member

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    There is an in between you know it doesn't have to be a Wigan / Bolton / fowls type owner the 80% mob could try investing some money in the club instead of using club funds to pay their debts or even just running the club like a sporting enterprise instead of a retail outlet for second rate professional footballers might be a start. The answer do you want to be the next Wigan Bolton ETC from the happy clappers is wearing a bit thin now especially as by the looks of things at least one of them will be swapping places with us during the summer.
     
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    The only answer I can think of after reading this post is you must be a certain MR Conway because by using £750 k of the club's money to pay their debt to the Crynes the 80% mob have definitely put the club at financial risk they then put it at an even greater financial risk by ordering a playing style change without a thought as to whether the players we had in the squad were capable of playing that way leading to almost certain relegation. And yes it is OUR club it was OUR club before the 80% mob arrived it is OUR club now and God willing despite the 80% mobs efforts it will be OUR club in the future. The 80% mob have no right to claim something they haven't even ******* paid for yet
     
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    There isn't this magical in between you suggest 100 percent.

    If any owner of the club has to put their own money in chasing either the prem or even survival in the champ, then that instantly makes the club mon self sufficient therefore buding debt.

    Club is either self sufficient or it isn't. There is no middle ground.
     
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    Nobody is happy with the current form so drop that line.

    But blaming the owners for everything is utter ********. We could be so so far worse off. Especially without a club.

    And yes that performance against Derby when we were relegated was down to the attitude of those players just giving up.

    This set of players haven't given up in that way. We have been outclassed but never taken the piss out of the fanbase like that day just capitulating to a bang average Derby side.
     
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    Business people often invest in their business to make it more successful that's all the majority of the fans want a board who will invest a little and run the club in a way that puts on field performance and league position as the primary focus rather than the current focus on player saleability and profitability before anything else.
     
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    People actually liking your post. Believing in this magical ownership model where owners invest money the club can't pay back.

    These people liking this post actually want the club to be lost forever.

    World has gone mad. It's not happy clapping, far from it. It's called being logical and realistic.

    Mr Cryne spent years saying exactly the same, ie self sufficiency has to be the way forward not debt. He was forced to prop the club up with some of his own cash to survive, no other reason.

    Yet the owners out brigade on here with their pitchforks demanding we spend beyond our means. It's crazy to even go down that road, especially with the stadium and club split. Would anyone save us like Wigan? Probably 100% no if all you are buying is debt.

    People commenting on the owners taking money out, realistically unless they are part of the ownership or club accountant who have been privy to boardroom discussions know nothing of the real situation. Now I'm sure if they have done something they are not entitled to do following legal agreements, they will be held to task in any legal action and so they should. But that seems to have all gone very quiet on both sides.
     
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    But without those player sales we make a loss. So I'll say it again. There is no middle ground you are self sufficient or build up debt. How much debt can a club with no real assets build up before the creditors are called in?
     
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    Just to clarify, it’s very rare that I run twitter in-game. Of the 270+ games I’ve worked, I’ve probably run twitter a handful of times. It’s not my forte. I’m all about the graphics, the footage, photos, the audio etc. Content gathering.

    I’ve done twitter once this season, Bournemouth away. Because we were a man light. Another cracking trip that was.
     
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    Business people put money into their companies it's called investment. There isn't a business in the country that at some point hasn't had investment from its owners well apart from us. We as fans are asked to make an investment into the club every season if your a season ticket holder it's once a year if you pay on the day it's roughly every other week for 9 months of the year. All the majority want is for owners who are prepared to do the same to put their money where their mouth is. You call it building up debt it's only debt if it's put in as loans there are other investment vehicles available that aren't building up debt you just have to have owners who want to invest.
     
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    We would fold should we start down that crazy route. End of story.

    Unless you don't care about getting your money back, for instance buying the club as a fan and propping it up with your own money and writing it off (please highlight a Barnsley fan who has the means to do that as I don't see them stepping forward).

    So the only investment vehicle is debt once you pay out more than you earn.

    Every single club should be forced to do that.
     
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    We'd be a lot better at being self-sufficient if we had owners who knew something about football, had some commercial nous, were honest and trusted by the 'customers', delivered on their promises, completed their actual purchase, owned and maintained the ground and didn't divert £750k of club resources.
     
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    Investment doesn't have to, be money, it can be expertise, advertising, attracting sponsorship deals.
     
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    clearly this a clueless investment vehicle if the worst of all worlds.
     
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    but you are delirious happy. Don’t see any issues either on or on the pitch. Don’t see any reason to change as anything as all is going tickty boo.

    Almost every game this season has been a capitalisation and embarrassment. Even 1 of the 2 wins should have been a heavy defeat.

    but aye carrying on tugging your forelock and thanking somebody who has invested nothing carry on investing nothing.
     
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