And as I think I said in an earlier response to your post So if loads of people, like yourself, decide they want to make a protest vote for the BNP, then what? You get a BNP councillor, maybe even a BNP council, but hey thats ok because you didn't actually want them! As I said before, they don't see that as "oh lots of protest votes", they see it as a vindication of their policies.
Who is stopping you worshipping how you want? Don't see a law banning attendence at church. What is English culture? I have heard this said a few times about the erosion of culture, but as far as I'm aware if you want to join a Morris Dancing troop, brass band etc- whats stopping you? Values.... emm tolerance was always considered an English/ British value
Do you really need examples?? Can't wear a Christian Cross, Bah Bah neutral sheep, can't mention Christmas etc etc. Wake up and smell the coffee this is happening ALL around you ....................you talk about BNP being blinkered yet fall into all the same alleged character traits of being so pre judgemental. A vote for BNP in some peoples eyes is judge, jury and conviction of being a racist....now that is narrow minded!
Can't wear a Christian cross - wrong, A PRIVATE COMPANY (nothing to do with the government) banned the wearing of religious symbols and later rescinded the ban after most normal people, and most religions, laughed at them for it. Can't mention Christmas? You can't not mention Christmas - there'll be cards in the shops next bloody month. If you're talking about the religious aspect of it then there's only one group of people who're to blame for that and that is us because we've commercialised it... "Can't wear a Christian cross" - that is exactly what the BNP would say, disingenuous, distorted and, frankly, not true. Only one person needs to take off their blinkers here...
You are voting for an openly racist party.... em what does that say? I think that you will find that Blairs actually been the most openly religious PM we have had for some time and has made quite a few statements about his personal faith. You could say that this has annoyed secularists a great deal. no one is denied the freedom to worship in this country. I am not prejudging the BNP... I have spent may years actively campaigning against them and the suited blokes who try and exude a sheen of respectability are the same fascist thugs who were active in the 70's and 80's. I know what the BNP stand for. I know their history. I know the various "personalities" who have been involved currently and in the past.
British Culture etc.. I don't think this is too difficult really.. I think the main thing that gets on peoples nerves is the constant move towards a nanny state focuseed on minorities rather than eroding our values. I laugh and yet shudder at the thought of some of the issues that are discussed instead of trying to improve the country and its international standing. Example. Over the top political correctness, lets ban hot cross buns in schools just in case it offends a muslim or another religion. We are supposed to live in a multi cultural society, the way forward is simple, keep the hot cross buns and add some other styles of food normally consumed by other religions. Banning something from one religion purely promotes racial hatred and the government should be put to task over breaking their own law. On the other hand we have hospitals closing around the country because money is being spent on research for crap like the above example. Unfortunately I do not personally believe there are any viable alternatives to vote for other than the mainstream parties in terms of voting in an MP, however voting in a councillor is a differant issue really as they should purely look after at the ward you live in. I think the ideal scenario would be to have a complete council made up of purely independant councillors (not an independant group) as once one party gains a hold, they pretty have the run of the mill. As for the BNP, I do not agree with the vast majority of their policies and am in no doubt that they do not have any stable economic policy, although I would consider myself more to the right of the political spectrum than our mainstream parties, mainly to concentrate more on Britain rather than Europe. (blagger) . Each to their own for me. I think it is a bit harsh to criticise DiscoTyke just for having a differing opinion to yourselves.
RE: British Culture etc.. I don't understand Britsih Culture... it isn't something tangible. We have always been a nation made up different waves of immigration, at least since the Romans. If culture did not adapt through the years we would still be treking to the local henge every solestice or singing madrigals with a lute ( and having heard sting do that on telly recently.. well you wouldn't want that). Why is it immigration that always gets the kicking in this debate? The homogenisation of society and its values is probably more a product of international corporatism than anything else. Walk down cheapside- you could be in any town in Britain... WH Smiths, Boots, Clintons, M&S etc. Look at the media... and the stranglehold that Murdoch has upon what you watch and read. And I haven't even mentioned Mcdonalds, Coca Cola, KFC, Nike and the Premier League.
RE: British Culture etc.. "voting in a councillor is a differant issue really as they should purely look after at the ward you live in" Would help if they live in the ward I reckon, or maybe even the town! A number of the BNP candidates live in Rotherham!
I always amuses me how people citing this argument use a few Daily Mail/Express/Sun articles (some of which have been proven not to be true) about some dumb council official or over nefarious jobsworth and then extrapolate it as if its a mad craze sweeping the country. Can't mention 'Christmas'? LOL Are you under a rock for 4 months of the year? Besides if 'Christmas' really means so much to you you'd be better off poking your stick with anger at what it has become - just another in the long line of money making schemes that persuade people to part with their cash on a very large scale. Nothing Christian about that.
I wonder if the founding fathers of the Labour Party thought, "Why bother, we've no chance against the two mainstream parties". If you believe in something else, start your own movement, or loiok at Veritas, UKIP, Christian Alliance, English Democrats, Respect or the one of the many other parties registered as such.
Right Disco.... "but who do you vote for if you are not happy to see a countries traditional values, customs, religions, beliefs etc being gradually eroded by the present encumbents at No 10??" Name me an example, credible at that of each one... I'd venture that Thatcher did more to erode our traditional values and customs that Blair has done....but hey, believe the Daily Mail if you like...
