Bobby Hassell should stay in midfield

Personally im worried about our side right now, i hope to eat my words but i really think we are in trouble if we are counting on a RB to play at CM!

Personally i think Coventry will turn us over on Sat (sadly!)

 

RE: Absolutely...

Have you just shat yourself that you've realised I'm right?

I seriously doubt whether someone that's better in a match on a Saturday doesn't try in training or is crap, else they wouldn't be able to perform well in the games.

Togwell's a better midfielder than Bobby Hassell will ever be.

 

cultured answer

if someone doesn't agree with you then /poo ?</p>

Doesn't really validate your opinion does it ?</p>

 

It's what his opinion's worth



Sorry I'm stooping to his level

 

ok, look at these figures,

Player A Tackles won 14 Tackles lost 4

Player B Tackles won 44 Tackles lost 15

Player C Tackles won 43 Tackles lost 20

Player D Tackles won 7 Tackles lost 9

Player E Tackles won 4 Tackles lost 5

Who gets the midfield berth?

 

You are wrong, because

Mr Knowall and the Coach say so . So it must be right.
No other opinion is allowed.

 

lol

personally I don't think there's much in it at all. Hassell by a short nose, Neither are a solution to see us to mid table unless as cover for injuries.

 

depends on the position/role played surely?

 

I guess that Bobby has the best figures...

What about figures for giving the ball away. Come one why do you think he should play there?

 

RE: I guess that Bobby has the best figures...

A Hassell</p>

B Sousa</p>

C Nyatanga</p>

D Togwell</p>

E Johnson </p>

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For which period were those figures? nt

 

not enough statistically to form an opinion................zzzzzz

 

Personally...

I think it's up to SD as what he sees in training will greatly influence who he plays in the match. He thinks that bobby is a midfielder that's his decision, after all it's his job on the line not the 10,000 other managers in the stand. People may say 'ahhh what about the Chelsea game?' I'd say 'ahhh and KO looked like a world beater that day'.</p>

For what it's worth I think Togwell was not given a chance last season and I feel that it would be unfair to say that he couldn't cut in the championship as he didn't have a run when the side was playing well. I think the writing was on the wall for him when Mattis was signed and Togwell was immediately dropped.</p>

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RE: For which period were those figures? nt

Up to last seasons Watford game.</p>

Hassell had only played 14 games but had successfully completed 121 passes. </p>

Not sure what his total passes were but for the number of games he played those figures arn't that bad.</p>

All some of us are saying is that in the short term Hassell is the better option.
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JohnnyCoachman is right. He must be right. He'll throw a strop if he's argued with, so just don't bother. It isn't really worth it.

You can't have a valid argument with someone who doesn't want to.

 

How many games had Togwell played in?

surely you should be comparing like for like.
Souza and Nyatanga and 3 midfielders ? I have classed Hassell as midfield, because thats where he was playing.
Why didnt you include Da Silva`s figures too.
I dont understand why you included the centrebacks?

 

You can't have a valid argument with someone who doesn't want to.

never a truer word said WRT the BBS

 

lies, damned lies and statistics

may mean a little more if you were to include minutes on the pitch, which position they were playing and in fairness which part of last season they were palying ie were they games when we were 'under the cosh'

 

RE: How many games had Togwell played in?

Well, I put Souza and Nyatanga in there as distracters.</p>

Didn't want to make it too simple a choice did I.</p>

Fosters figures for the same period was 42 and 10. </p>

Howard's were 32 and 35.</p>

Da Silva 16 and 6. </p>

The figures only show a players tackling success.
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VERY selective that is Johnny, and doesn't tell the whole story.

For some reason you have chosen to ignore the 5 cup games that hassell played in (3 of those in midfield) and gone just for league games but ok, lets look at the stats shall we.

Of the 14 league games that Hassell played, 8 of those were from midfield, that is just to clarify things.
He spent 1,079 minutes on the pitch (plus any additional stoppages) and made according to you just 18 attempted tackles. That is roughly one attempted tackle every 60 minutes.

So what you are saying JohnnyCoachman, is that Bobby Hassell doesn't make enough tackle attempts. He lets the game pass him by. I think you'll find that that is exactly what people have been trying to tell you.

Do you have stats for individual games? I'd love to know how many of his 18 attempted tackles were made during the games when he was playing in defence and how many were made when he was supposedly breaking up play in midfield. I would estimate that he made the majority of his tackles during the 444 minutes that he was playing in defence and only a small minority in the 635 minutes he spent playing as a midfielder.
Even if ALL 18 attempted tackles were made while he was in midfield, it is still only one every 35 minutes. Is that really enough?

And also, only 14 were successfull tackles, so that is one successfull tackle every 77 minutes of football. Wow that is bad.

Basically, the stats that you have shown yourself demonstrate that Bobby Hassell does not do the job that he is supposed to do as a defensive midfielder.