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    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

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    Why did Moore want out? Presumably because Wigan offered him more money. Or perhaps he just wanted the glamour of playing for Wigan! I know I’m repeating myself, but all professional footballers (or nearly all) want out if someone offers them more money. It’s the reality of a short career, which is understandable. But the club made the decision to sell. And replace him with a guy from Austria.
     
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    If you refer to my previous posts, I agree.
     
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    You two gentlemen do know that I am not forcing you to read my stuff don't you. If I irritate you both so much, there is a very good way of avoiding that irritation.
     
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    So you're not prepared to take on board what I have said and how you come across then?
     
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    I know that you much prefer to spend your spare cash on the horses, and I do not criticise you for that. I do not know why you spend so much time on here when you would rather be elsewhere, but once again, that is entirely your choice.

    My reference to Brentford is entirely justified, I believe, when the thread is titled Brentford.
     
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    Quite so MiLord, but not the implication that we think our owners should spend as much as the Brentford owner. (£90M would do!)
     
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    I'm sorry, but I cannot help how I appear to be to you, and do not appear to be the same to others. By far the easiest solution to the problem is for you to stop reading my drivel.
     
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    Just one other minor point of order, Mr Rain. My racing interest is not an item of net expenditure!
     
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    You are completely missing my point which supports what I am saying. I don't think for a minute that what you post is "drivel", I am just asking that you take on board the way in which you frequently reference your own works in a way that makes you come across as arrogant and full of self-importance, as when you do that it gives the impression that what you say carries more weight than others.

    I am not the only person that has criticised you for this, there have been a few. Any reasonable person would have a think about this and at least take it into consideration.
     
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    Well, you are a very good investor then. I might just be able to introduce you to another line of investment that poses an even bigger challenge.
     
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    Have you seen how long the post was that contained that stuff. Are you really saying that you wanted me to write it all again, or are you just saying that I should have referenced the later BBC report that fully endorsed what I wrote in my original Minority Report - Talking Finance. Frankly, you seem to be looking for any little thing to provide you with an excuse to criticise my style. If I am honest, I don't think that it is my style that you dislike. I think that it is what I say. Well, I will not stop saying it, and I have no alternative to the way that I express myself. I think that my solution is the best in your case.
     
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    Yep you're just supporting what I believe about you. Nobody else refers to what they have written in previous threads, there is no need to. You are no more important than anyone else on here, the sooner you accept that the better. I feel sorry for you that you have to come on here to try and get that sense of importance at the expense of belittling everyone else's views.

    I won't bother banging my head against a brick wall any further.
     
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    The money they purchased the club with .
     
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    Was it their money?
     
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    What you asking me for ? I’m no businessman , accountant or owt like that all I know is they purchased club from Patrick and in my layman terms that means they used their money .
    If any other method was used I have no evidence nor clue as to how this happens so untill it’s proved different and in the terms I understand that’s the method I will believe was used.
     
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    Well, just so long as you feel sorry for me, my mind is at rest.
     
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    I’m probably repeating what I said months ago but it really angered me to hear Conway’s comments when he came out with his line about how the squad was too big & that Struber wanting a smaller group to work with so they could all get proper coaching. Me & many others were saying that months ago! It’s just common sense. How can owners of a club like ours have almost 30 first team players on the books? It’s bonkers.

    There’s not that many of them who’s contracts are up in the summer either so we’re going to end up having to pay players off or subsidise their wages out on loan.

    Radlinger, Collins, Walton
    Cavare, J Williams
    Sollbauer, Sibbick, Anderson, Diaby, Halme
    Oduor, B Williams, Pinillos
    Mowatt, McGeehan, Dougall, Ritzmaier, Thomas, Bahre, Styles, Bird
    Thiam, Wilks, Green, Simoes, Mottley-Henry
    Brown, Chaplin, Woodrow, Schmidt, Adeboyejo, Miller

    That’s 32 players contracted to us. By my reckoning Radlinger, Cavare, Pinillos, Dougall, Bird, Thiam & Mottley-Henry are the only ones out of contract in the summer so that means we could be relegated with 24 first team players on the books. More than 2 players for every position. It’s madness.

    No ones asking for ridiculous wages or huge transfer fees, have a squad with at least 8 or 9 less players on the books & pay slightly more in wages. Have a couple of Hassell & Scowen types who can cover different positions. Be aware of who’s available on a free transfer so you aren’t paying substantial fees for every player. I mean 32 players? Everyone of them has an agent, we’ll be pissing money up the wall on agents fees as well.

    If we go down what happens to Struber? Does he get sacked immediately like Morais? Then we’re left with 3 Austrian’s in Schmidt, Sollbauer & Ritzmaier on the books. How easy will it be to shift them on?

    Don’t get me wrong we’ll get substantial fees for Woodrow & Mowatt & maybe Brown & / or Chaplin as well but we’re going to be losing a fortune on players leaving on free transfers who we paid fees for, players we have to pay off & players who’s wages we have to subsidise when out on loan.

    The principle in buying young players & selling them for a profit is correct. It’s the strategy of having virtually all the squad under this model that’s the problem.
     
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    Nail. Head. Hit
     
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    bent nail, pliers, straighten.
     
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    Spot on!
    Recruitment, we were told was the business of the "model"....implemented by the board. The same board who recruited and i will use the term "scatter gun" again because we have 30 plus players on our books, who then 5 months later tell us the squad is far too big!!
    I expect more from our trusted owners and its another reason this long term strategy of theirs does not ring true.
    Btw, i do not want the board out or anything as draconian, i just want them to put a little bit more "football thinking" into their actions.
     
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