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Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

so you've decided that the child was molested and not racially abused or suffered racially motivated abuse as you 1st stated and that the murder of a serving britsh soldier on the streets of this country were in actual fact revenge for this racial abuse. with people like you about its a wonder anyone takes the oath of allegience

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

he said racially motivated abuse not molested. and it still doesn't alter the fact that if you release their names then the totally innocent families will become targets

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

No. There were two seperate incidents. One was a racial attack involving an innocent civilian being forced to pose for photographs while cards showing racial insults were held up. The other was a racially motivated molestation of a child.
And no I never said it was a direct retaliation for this attack, I said that there are revenge attacks by extremists and that the woolwich murder was an example of this where ITV showed the attacker quite clearly telling everyone that it was just that.

And sorry old **** but if you think that wanting child molesters out of our armed forces should stop people from signing up then I am deeply disturbed by that. I would have thought that you and all people of a military background would be disgusted by their actions and want them punished as harshly as possible to stop scum like this from tarnishing the job which you did.

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

American soldier was convicted last week of murdering 12 women and children - walked into an afghan village and started shooting indiscriminately

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

16 sorry

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

I totally agree, but you only told half a story in your original post you just mentioned racial abuse ( and i'm not condoning that even though I can fully understand it with the pressures out there. i may have used similar language at catholics in Belfast even though my maternal family are irish catholics) not what was said in the full aricle: there is no place in our armed forces for this sort of behaviour, but if you release their names then the whole family become targets ( and lets not forget the peadeatrician (?) in wales that was mistaken for a paedophile (?))

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

Post-traumatic stress disorder cause it?

 

I do understand what you are saying Jedders and have to agree somewhat , however..

I think I may be correct in saying you are also ex- services. Therefore proud of your efforts and the ones who went before us. Again I say 2 wrongs do not make a right.

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

I went on what was posted in the 1st article where a few of the facts were missing, theres a difference between racial abuse end molesting

 

Re: I do understand what you are saying Jedders and have to agree somewhat , however

William Caley.

 

Re: I served in Her Majesty's Armed Forces for over 30 years

But by that logic you wouldn't name the Woolwich extremists. Doesn't naming them put their innocent families at risk of reprisal from far right extremists?

 

Who said it was sexual?

 

He forced a young boy to touch his penis telling him to 'touch my special place'

 

Are you comparing the two incidents with the brutal murder a couple of weeks ago. And have you actually read the details of the crimes that the two soldiers committed?

 

Bottom corner on page 46 you predict? Well it's already pretty highly placed on Sky and BBC text services. If it is indeed on page 46, it'll probably get the same amount of press coverage as Operation Bullfinch targeting grooming gangs in Oxford. Minimal coverage. When it suits the media/authorities news stories from both sides of the political spectrum are hidden away.

 

I agree that the media in this country is disgusting. They only tell us what they think we want to hear. And it's disturbing that so many people on here are being so racist about this.

Wasnt there a similar case of a British person killing a muslim with a machete in the wake of the soldier attack that got no coverage in the media. It makes me feel sick how bias the British media (and British public) are on these matters.

 

The reason why the killing of Lee Rigby got so much coverage was that it was far more than any other murder, it was an act of terrorism carried out in the name of Islam (according to the two nutjacks who carried it out). I read about the murder of the elderly Muslim gentleman and I was disgusted by it but there is no way that it warranted the same volume of column inches as the Woolwich murder - that isn't racist its just fact. I know the bleeding heart liberals in this country will always try to raise the race card and hijack an arguement claiming everyone who have differing views are racist but the facts just dont support these ramblings.

 

So killing a Muslim man in the name of Anti-Islam isn't terrorism? There is no difference whatsoever, and it deserved the same amount of media coverage. That is a fact, it's 2 very similar murders, but as one was in the name of Islam, it gained more coverage than the anti-Islam murdering, and that is racism no matter how you look at it.

And I'm not a "bleeding heart liberal", I just dont agree with some of the decisions made by the media in this country

 

Racism and terrorism are very different. A few years ago there was an uncovered plot by Muslim extremists to abduct and murder a Muslim soldier which would have been terrorism but you'd struggle to call it a racist murder. Like I said the murder of the Muslim man was horrible and all life is equally precious but the murder of Mohammed Saleem, which may or may not have been racially motivated, just isn't going to generate the same level of national and international media attention of the terrorist murder of a British soldier on the streets of London. Like it or not the media coverage would have been the same had the soldier been Muslim.