Can anyone remember a 'turnaround' before?

Can't remember if there were many shouts for Viv's head during matches, I don't think so but there was plenty of general moaning. I don't think anyone was that sad about him buggering off to Middlesbrough.

The following season expectations were as low as they've ever been. Danny Wilson wasn't liked by the Barnsley fans, he hadn't played well the previous season. All the terracing was closed and attendances got down to the 4,000s. But it turned out to be one of the best seasons we've ever had. I think Danny Wilson showed us all it isn't about the money, it isn't about recruitment (he didn't sign a single player that first season), it's about the ability to man manage a group of players. We went from relegation strugglers to promotion hopefuls with the exact same group of players. Don't believe everything you read, good managers can make a difference.

 

Brilliantly summed up. Even though there are better achieving seasons, I always see 94/95 as my favourite. I was 13 years old, my mates were all Wendy fans, and they'd be Waddle and Hirst at school, I'd be O'Connell or Liddell.
I won a football skills competition run by Bobby Charlton that year, but as part of the Yorkshire region I had my award given to me by Gerry Taggart, at the civic. Got the photo at r old boys somewhere. Must have been 10 times the size of me.
I had to do a little show of my skills on the stage, and tried sumat daft, ended up doing the splits on the shiny floor but still caught the ball in my back leg.
Got signed by Forest a few months later (signed by Cloughie.. and Crossley was there) and never made it, went non league and crippled myself at 19.
Would have played for Barca, nailed on.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

I think it's more difficult to get the better players now. Premiership teams and those with parachute payments and sugar daddies hoover them up. But I don't think the overall quality is better. In fact, I think it's worse.

In the early 80s Lineker was playing for Leicester in this division. That wouldn't happen now. He'd be signed by a Premier league team at 17. Newcastle had Keegan and Waddle and Beardsley. Glavin, Banks, McCarthy and Evans would all have been signed by Premier League teams rather than playing in the Championship.

In the late 80s early 90s Crystal palace had Mark Bright and Ian Wright bearing down on our goal. In the Championship!

Every team in the division had great players, including us, and I reckon the quality used to be tons better. As a result, take any team we had in the 80s and 90s and place them in this division now and they'd do fine. Trouble is, all the players would be bought within a couple of months.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

We wouldn't be able now to sign 2 Premiership centre forwards (Hendrie, Wilkinson) - 1. we couldn't afford them, 2. They'd have earnt so much money they could chalk **** on it.

There is such a concentration of money in the Prem that any player of note is almost instantly snapped up, and in return the Championship has mainly players not quite good enough to play higher, players struggling to cope and Prem loannees getting fit/experience.

I'm convincing myself as we go here that it's just crap and there's no point....

 

he hadn't played well the previous season. FFS Jim O'Brien Symdrome. He played poor up to the bromsgrave away game after that he was amazing and single handedly kept us up

To control of the team both on and off the fieldm and was the ONLY rational choice for boss

 

We had Steve Bull against us regularly. John McGinley, Trevor Sinclair. They'd also be snapped up ages ago this day and age. Hate it when folk talk down the past, and big up the present. Seen some right ***** this season (Cardiff, Hudds, Charlton, Leeds, Bolton, Brum, Blackburn, Hull) and they are all lauded as way out of our league.
Anyway, spot on, again. You're on form today, pal.
I think Danny's 94/95 side would tear Keith's current lot a new arsehole. However, last years pre-xmas eleven with Vaz, Butterfield, Drinkwater etc would have given em a go.
A 1994 Taggart is what we need now. In fact, we have needed it since forever.
And what I wouldn't give for a Bullock, a Payton, or a Redfearn.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

In my opinion one of the biggest problems is the size of squads at all the clubs. We've got over 30 experienced players. It's ridiculous. So does everyone else. Squads used to be half the size. Half the players who are now in the squads of premiership teams would once be playing in the championship. The players that we fill our squad with would have been league 1 and league 2 players.

There are too many professional football players. Half the good ones are playing premiership reserve football. While the football league is awash with inferior players because all the rich clubs are hoarding the decent players.

Like you said, at one time players like Wilkinson and Hendrie came to clubs like ours. Nowadays Premier league clubs keep them on because they can have a squad of 40 players.

 

Here comes tyrone to shout at us. Thanks for the input. It's always a real pleasure.

 

What have I said wrong

 

We'll beat Leicester.
But al be in bed, as am doing overtime this evening.
Endeavour.

 

Youre saying that but when I started supporing the reds you needed dynamite to get the managers out of their seat, this ditching and switching is a recent thing