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Mansfield Red is funny “I seem to be extremely more intelligent than you”,could be a new comedy character

 

To be fair you were the one who questioned whether I was more intelligent than him, I never said that he claimed to be intelligent - just that people who are holding him up as a reliable source are waaaaay off. I'm pretty sure if we were talking about a podcast which uncritically referred to the numbers dying "with covid" as being caused by covid rather than one misrepresenting VAERS stats your views would be significantly different.

But of course I'm sure you're just being "balanced" or however you currently choose to label your fig leaf.

 

All this rhetoric about Rogan and the vaccine etc etc... I seem to remember Kamala Harris and Joe Biden saying they won't take the vaccine/denying the legitimacy whilst Trump was in office. Pretty dangerous if you ask me. Soon changed their minds after the election, ofcourse.

Fact is, both sides are purely for their own side. This misinformation chatter is all based on politics. They've all said racist things, all said stupid things. Both sides can be as bad as each other

 

Heh. Would be much more credible if it wasn't coming from someone who went out of his way to avoid criticising Trump but is happy to refer to Biden as "Sleepy Joe".

When it comes to balance I've already said I'm opposed to vaccine mandates, but I'm also opposed to people being willing to swallow or turn a blind eye to misinformation which supports their position. Surely my position is pretty balanced by any reasonable assessment?

And calling me disingenuous? Those in glass houses...

 

Interesting that you see the mandates as being right wing extremism. In the USA, the majority of mandates at city, county and state level are being pushed by Democrats, i.e. California, where I reside. The right wing states, e.g. Florida and Texas have long been against them.

 

I mean if that's true you won't find me arguing against anyone who says that they're pricks. Anyone who seeks to misrepresent things for their own gain is a tw*t.

 

I think you're disingenuous in stating that I hate balanced viewpoints, and it's laughable given than I've demonstrated a balanced viewpoint in this thread. I think that you try to claim that your viewpoint is balanced to try and insulate yourself from criticism.

 

It's true bud. And I completely agree. Hence my point about them being in it for their themselves. Twist things to suit the narratives. I wouldn't trust none of them at the minute, Pelosi, Biden, Harris, Trump, Pence... Just like our lot over here.

 

Not sure about that, but he is a horrible money grabber who's willing to give airtime to anyone if it gets him viewers/listeners.

 

Thanks, and fair enough in admitting it's not always balanced. I don't think I struggle with balanced viewpoints but I accept that I've had a few pints today and this exchange might be more adversarial on my part than it might otherwise have been.

 

All this thread has shown me is that the only way forward is Communism and that the centre left and right are probably more extreme than they want to admit, but weirdly in opposite ways.

 

That very word sends shivers down my spine.

 

I think this might be related to your age (but your analysis of this really couldn't be more wrong).

Whilst Gay and transgender rights might make it look like the world is doing a lot to move Left. Here's a few more facts:

In the US; womens rights, particularly reproductive rights are moving back to the 50's. The treatment of immigrants has moved to the right, race relations has moved to the right, gun ownership is growing exponentially, more people believe in creationism now than in the 60's. The balance of wealth has grown exponentially for the rich whilst its stagnating or dropping for the average worker. Workers rights are slipping back to pre war levels. Taxation has never been less progressive than it is now.

And the shift in the UK is similar (obvs we don't have guns and quite so many religious nutters) - In my lifetime a Conservative Prime Minister oversaw the Nationalisation of a major manufacturer. The vast majority of the population is further Left on nationalisation than any of our major political parties - and that 'left' would be seen as perfectly 'normal' to everyone in the 60's and 70's. The treatment of Gypsies in the new crime bill looks like it comes from Germany in the 30's. Voter rights and rights to protest are regressing as we slip back to League 1.

And that's just off the top of my head.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ma-bill-religion-rob-standridge-b2007505.html