Can't remember the same amount of media coverage

Can't see anything wrong with that.

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It was the scum who stormed the gates who caused the deaths. Anyone who tries to blame it on the police is talking out of their arse.</p>

 

steady now

that post is hardly "feckwit status"

get a grip instead of joining the emotional bandwagon

FFS

he offered a simple idea. answer it properly

 

utter, utter ballacks

 

Fair and balanced article from a neutral fan - please read.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=635507&sec=england&root=england&cc=5901

 

But that's exactly what's so interesting about it

That it's so critical of the police. The paragraphs talking about the quality of the evidence being in inverse proportion to the rank of the officer and all that. It's pretty damning of the senior officers.

 

RE: Can't see anything wrong with that.

'talking out of their arse'.
Is your proven speciality on here , anymore lies you want to put on record about Graham on here , he still waits for the apology.
Caught with your trousers down more than once.

 

Nasty nasty

To imply that Liverpool supporters were in part to blame for what happened is both totally ignorant and stupidly biased. Shame on you.

In fact you might as well have said that fans at Bradford were directly responsible for what happened to them for smoking and dropping a lit *** under the stand.

 

You take the diddums approach if you like.

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But you're wrong.</p>

 

RE: Can't see anything wrong with that.

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I'm more than happy to talk to Graham butIwon't be doing it through a toxic little worm like you.</p>

 

Is all the evidence wrong too?

The Lord justice taylor Report was comissioned by a thatcher government who had a vested interest in discrediting the working classes and people of northern cities that she termed after the riots at Luton town is the mid 80's as the "enemy within". Why would such a report then completely exonherate the fans, openly stating that ticketless fans had no bearing on the tragedy?

Plus, why trivialise the death of 96 people by terming it the didums approach?

 

RE: Is all the evidence wrong too?

It's the diddums approach that trivialises the deaths, don't accuse me of that.</p>

Nobody forced those responsible to behave like animals. The police, probably one officer, made one decision that turned out to be the wrong one. They were trying to aleviate the crush outside the ground. It was a crowd-safety decision, a bad one, but let's not forget who was causing the unneccessary problem.</p>

I'm not going to get into a protracted debate about this. Those who want to award the mindless hoard absolution and blame it on the police who, with the best of intentions, failed to control them will allways do so and I will always hold that they're talking out of their arses.</p>

 

Bang On

I even said the same to a Liverpool fan last night...he didnt fecking like it but......**** em

 

It's down to how you define the "cause."

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If you want toput it down to thefailure of the police to control the crush properly then go ahead. I hold that the cause of the disaster was the crush and the cause of the crush was those doing the shoving.</p>

Of course nobody's going to come forward and say, &quot;I was one of the morons causing the crush&quot; so there's no-one to actually point the finger at but I think their self-absolution, as if they're not responsible for their own actions, is sick.</p>

 

Because Its Liverpool

& they love grief.

Morbid *****

 

RE: Is all the evidence wrong too?

The senior police officers were only one aspect in a series of failings throughout the people whose responsibility it is to ensure the saftey of individuals. People were outside lepopings Lane at a natural bottleneck, late becuase of delays on transport trying to get through too few turnstiles (forest had almost twice as many) and that part of the ground had experienced the exact same problems in previous years yet the authorities and police had failed to act on past warnings.

 

Pointless arguing.

You should know that by now. Facts? Who cares!

 

RE: Can't see anything wrong with that.

(lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

:'( :'( :'( :'(

 

That's fine.

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You blame the failure to control the crush, I blame those causing the crush. Let's leave it at that.</p>

 

Didnt they do exactly the same at the CL final in Athens??