Cardiff will not beat us in the last game...because

RE: "Dave Jones was not at the match."

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Oh, alright then, I'll let him off.</p>

 

they will not be allowed to play in europe cos they are from wales

the fa cup winners place is europe is for an english side - so portsmouth are in europe win or lose.

 

Wales isn't even a proper country! nt

 

England/Scotland Kingdoms, Wales is a Principality

Northern Ireland a Province.</p>

I think.</p>

 

RE: England/Scotland Kingdoms, Wales is a Principality

yep thats right.

 

RE: Its still a country though

yeh...dont really know what definiton of a country is to br honest. It was not recognised as a country for many centuries. I believe it was officially disolved into England in 12 or 13th century.

 

Situation's all changed

You're wrong there mate, nothing concrete as yet though. And apparently, there's still a chance of us getting a UEFA cup spot if Pompey finish 5th!

http://www.cardiffcity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=388100

 

RE: Its still a country though

Therein lies the problem - it's not official.

The dissolution has never been recognised in Wales - it's another one of those historical examples where Kings of the past have laid claim to someone elses lands.

And besides, none of us are countries anymore are we? We're all part of Europe surely (hidebehindsofa)

Yeah, right

 

RE: Its still a country though

exactly. The Welsh 've met seem to dislike those from Cardiff more than the English?

 

RE: Situation's all changed

Can't see you getting it if Pompey finish 5th, as that's never been the case before, the cup winners take the spot for the cup and the league qualification moves down a place.

 

RE: Its still a country though

You're not far wrong there mate.

There's a feeling in Wales that "everything goes to Cardiff" and the old green-eyed monster then has it's say.

North Walians feel completely isolated and separated from the decision-making centre which is the Capital. The extremities of West Wales and to a point Mid-Wales is the same.

The valleys feel they have "made" Cardiff through industries of the past and developed it into the thriving place it is now with little reward themselves.

Sw*nsea suffers terribly with Second City Syndrome and despises anything that happens in Cardiff. They relate everything to Cardiff and always make the comparison. That's not just your football fan, that's Joe Public & politicians alike. They really are a sad breed down there.

Newport is along the same lines as Sw*nsea, just scruffier.

Having said all that, from my experiences recently, everyone seems to be behind our FA Cup bid - jacks excepted.

 

does that mean it is full of

... welsh people... obviously!

 

RE: Situation's all changed

No, I can't either tbh.

But this situation has been going on for years where the Welsh clubs are the only ones whose access to European competition has been denied - all to do with our governing body , the FAW. Bless 'em.

UEFA has been lobbied several times in recent years (particularly when they had their AGM in Cardiff) over the issue and there's been such a fuss through the FA Cup that UEFA President Michel Platini has stepped in & agreed it's unjust.

There may be a possibility of a wild card entry - ala Liverpool in the Champions League a few years back.

 

RE: Its still a country though

I was thinking of people we met in snowdonia. They were real good fun though.

 

RE: Its still a country though

There's people in Snowdonia? Thought there were just Gogs!

I've relatives close to Snowdonia (originally from South) who moved up there 30 years ago. They are completely different in the North tbh - fiercely patriotic the further you go west & basically scousers as yo get closer to the border.

It's like comparing a geordie to a cockney, a cumbrian to a cornishman. Different ideals & way of life.

They're not keen on us & the feeling's mutual

 

RE: Situation's all changed

I could see that the wild card may happen if you win the cup and the FA deny you the place, but if runners up then I don't think UEFA will bother. It's not that long ago that the winners of the League Cup weren't allowed into the UEFA Cup if they weren't playing in the top division (that was when the FA Cup holders qualified for the Cup Winners Cup) and that was a UEFA ruling.