Chris O'Grady speaks..

All part of the problem. Players instructing agents to demand ridiculous wages. Said players then not 'putting it in' when it suits. Bag o ***** the whole lot.

 

Football clubs should refuse to pay these wages. All of them. That's the only way it'll alter. But the clubs won't. And instead they'll keep upping the cost of attending football for us idiots.

 

Unrealistic to expect that to happen though. There's always someone who can pay a little bit more so to remain competitive clubs cave in to player demands. To say that we should just hate the game and not the greedy players just smacks of fanboyism. What is 'the game' that we should hate?

Players, agents and clubs have all fooked it up equally. Can't see why players should be absolved. They milk it so they can retire at 35 and do **** all meaningful for the rest of their life. Very much to blame IMO.

 

I'm talking about a wider point rather than just COG. Mebbe wrong place for it.

 

Fanboyism? Naew. I just know I'd do exactly the same were I a footballer, try to earn as much as I can from the game. Just as I do in my own line of work. I work hard, try to impress and hope to get promoted/paid more.

Don't hate the player, hate the game, is a piss take phrase that I'm sure you've heard before in other spheres, pal. The big smiley face on the end of that comment I made was a clue n all.

Do I agree with players being paid so much? Do I buggery. But I'm not going to knock em because nobody forces clubs to pay em so much.

 

The demands of being competitive forces the clubs. You can see that? The players, largely through their parasitic agents, take advantage. In fact they take the piss tbh.

And like you I'd probably do the same, I'd expect fans to be pissed off about it too.

But you're saying we shouldn't. Not the players, they're great. Fanboyism.

 

Fanboyism? Your favourite new word or summat?

I've not said am not pissed off about it. And I certainly haven't told you or anyone else not to be pissed off about it. I've merely said that they're trying to earn as much as they can and I won't be knocking em for that. If I go into work tomorrow and I'm offered a stupid pay rise, I won't be saying no to it in case other folk are pissed about it.

My new favourite word - suckadickism.

 

He was never told to play out there, it's his natural game

 

Fanboyism. I like it. It suits.

MPs and bankers are just trying to earn as much as they can too. I'll leave it at that.

 

They aren't in the entertainment industry.

I'll leave it there.

 

Neither are you but that was a fair example to use. You said. And it doesn't matter.

 

You've not seen me at work.

I stand by what I said. I won't be knocking them for taking silly money offered to them.

There's no chance an employee is going to go "well, actually, I'll take 90% less thanks". It's up to the employers to tackle the problem. As for agents, don't deal with them. Save that coin by employing more scouts/coaches.

But you're right, it won't happen. Because football is now completely about money.

 

I stand by what I've said. I can see why you would take the opposite view though.

And I know I'm right. Us fans will just have to keep paying through the nose to watch players that aren't worth owt like what they demand in wages.

 

Not really. I'm not taking an opposed view. I'm in agreement that players wages are obscene, in particular in the top two tiers of English football. Some bang average footballers 'earning' silly wages. But I don't see them as the main component of that issue. And, I can't blame em for taking said silly wages.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that then. I don't see it as them 'taking' the wages, more 'demanding' them. The clubs backed into a corner and having to pay them. Players and agents are as much to blame as anyone.

I'll leave it now as we are on opposite sides of the argument.

 

No problem.