Climate Change.

To be filed with:
There’s a limited market for motor cars because most people can’t afford a chauffeur

there’s no market for home computers because most people don’t have the space.

even if we don’t care about the environment; it’s obvious that fossil fuel is a finite resource. Green energy sources require tons of research to help shape a world that can run on them, but any work put into solving those issues will clearly be paid back in spades.

 

How many mining or oil jobs currently advertised in South Yorkshire?

 

There’s probably only 4 jobs total in Whitehaven + or minus 10 miles. All you’ve done here is point out the lack of jobs in West Cumbria. The solution to this inequality though is not to open a coal mine. Neither would I place much faith in Johnson levelling up.

 

Predicted opening....April 2025, 1st strike planned.....,first sunny week in May 2025






(The above information may be entirely fictitious )

 

Tbf I think they have a point, particularly if we in the West aren't adhering to it.

 

Well, when Bangladesh* is under water we might have a slight issue with migration.

*See also Holland, Belgium, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, etc.

 

Some good reply’s looks like short term jobs means long term loss for the world

 

the whitehaven coal is high quality coking coal, coke which will be used in steel production

the world needs steel and therefore needs coke as this is the most efficient method of production

if this coal wasnt mined here it would be mined elsewhere ,we are no where near being able to produce steel more efficiently by other methods

good on both parties for coming together to make whitehaven a possibilty

its mentioned in this thread that coal is a finite resource, it is,as is any other mineral, however, even tho this country, in the past, produced millions of tons of coal, we have used less than 15% of our reserves

so, imo, whilever the world is using coke in steel production it makes sense to produce it here

 

Supply and demand dictates that this mine will make producing steel using coal cheaper. There are alternatives to using coke but they are not yet economic. So what needs to happen is that the norm becomes more expensive to reflect the damage it does to the climate. We should lead the way and leave the coal in the ground. If we were a poorer nation with less history of carbon production I would support your argument. Not us and not now.

 

I genuinely don't think mankind has got its head around either what will happen if the planet continues to heat and we consume its resources, and what we need to do to cease such results being inevitable.

As covid has shown, we generally don't believe it or take drastic enough action until we're forced to... and even then, we don't always do so swiftly enough, or we continue to have disbelievers.

 

Workington man to get a job.

 

You missed Donny

 

shifting production elsewhere solves nothing,our CO2 emmisions are a tiny fraction of the worlds output so mining a million tonnes a year is hardly going to cause a catastrophe

using past emmision figures to prevent the mine opening, again solves nothing, If the coal was going to be used in electricity generation i could understand the outcry, but it isnt and the steel production that is its intended use has to use the coal from somewhere so it may aswell be mined here

i fail to understand the notion that poorer nations should be able to mine it instead of here, poorer nations tend to use more primitive methods of production which are far more harmful to the environment than what whitehaven will be.

 

why

 

I was being ironic and referring to the miner's strike.

 

Donny is expected to become a coastal resort if sea levels rise about 3m. Its another 17m before we lose the town centre.

https://www.floodmap.net/

 

I'm 10m higher than the town centre

 

There is a stronger argument for poorer countries using exports of coking coal as a means to raise living standards.
Stronger argument but it still needs to stop.

 

It is possible to use coal responsibly to generate electricity re- the use of fluorised bed technology.
Trouble is, it's extremely expensive and due to the stigma around the production
of greenhouse gas due to emissions, coal does not widely appeal to conservationists , with the result that
Politicians of all hues have hitherto been reluctant to advocate its use.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluidized_bed_combustion

 

If they could capture the CO2 you could use in-situ combustion - burn it in the ground - no miners required.