Comments regarding 'Hecky out'

Like Scowen for example?

 

Exactly. But it seems we didn’t want to

 

i dont see how moncur should be picked out for special critism when 9/10 players aren't exactly playing well

 

I have a different definition of a lot. In terms of the money we have received it's not a lot. In terms what others spend it's not a lot. It just seems a lot for us but that's only because we have had to sign so many players in a short space of time. £200 - £500k adds up to what seems like a lot when you have to spend it ten times. I bet the wage bill is smaller than it was in 2014 but the turnover is higher.

 

The issue with Moncur is he doesn’t look like he’s trying.

Potts for example is limited but he gives his all

 

I was meaning a lot per player in terms of how good they are and from where we've signed them. I've heard figures of £1 million for McGheean and £750K for Pinnock.

The idea, as far as I understand it, is to buy young players and help develop them so we can sell them on at a profit. How much profit can we make when we've spent a million pounds to buy the player in the first place?

Well, I can only think of three midfield players in our history who we've sold for a million pounds or more. There may be others, but the only ones that spring to mind at present are Neil Redfearn, Craig Hignett and Connor Hourihane. Three players who will be forever mentioned when most Barnsley fans who've seen them play speak of the best ever Barnsley player or pick their best 11.

Redfearn came from Oldham having just been a first team regular in a team that topped the Championship table and won promotion to the Premier League. We got him because he fell out with his manager who wanted to play Redfearn on the right wing.

Craig Hignett's place in the Middlesbrough side had been taken by Paul Gascoigne, so Higgy took a big pay rise to move to Aberdeen. He felt isolated, missed his family, and a few months later, his big mate, John Hendrie, who happened to be our manager, tempted him to come to us.

Connor Hourihane was part of the plan. We got him relatively cheaply. When he got here he was raw, a luxury player who wouldn't put in a tackle, but there was clearly something there, he was a luxury player we got a lot out of. He'd got 10 goals by this time in his first season with us and Christ knows how many assists. He was a work in progress, but there was a hell of a lot to work with.

So, if we're going to make a profit on McGeehan, history suggests he's going to have to be a once in a generation type player for it to allow us to make a profit on him having spent so much signing him in the first place. Having now seen him play, I'm not even sure what he's supposed to be good at. He doesn't seem particularly fast or skillful, haven't seen him take free kicks or corners, haven't seen him shoot much, his passing has been poor on the whole, and while he's put in the effort, he doesn't seem to be particularly strong in the tackle or able to find a position to consistently break up opposition attacks. Despite some appalling performances by players in his position, he's still found himself relegated to the bench.

Similarly, with Pinnock, how many centre halves have we ever sold for more than we bought this lad from non-league? Carl Tiler, Gerry Taggart, Alfie Mawson and Marc Roberts. I think that's it. It's very, very rare. The lad got injured, but he wasn't getting in the side when he was fit.

£1 million for a league 2 midfield player and £750k for a centre half from non-league is a lot of money and will ultimately lead to bankruptcy if we continue to do that. Even if they do turn out to be pretty good, the chances are we won't make a profit, they'll have to exceptional for us to do that, but what's more than likely, when you take a punt on a lower league player, it won't work out and we can't afford to be doing that and spending these kind of figures.

 

No other club will want him way he's going

 

And by putting it in a title thread he's highlighted it even more.