Compulsory vaccinations

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But doesn’t it therefore make sense then for everyone eligible to take the jab up? I think the gov is trying influence the take up of the younger population which i think is wrong. But i would feel disappointed if the younger generation just ignored the medical advise. I find it a shame that the gov feels it necessary to implement this motivation by stealth.

 

The last time I checked though, the chances of serious side-effects from the vaccine are significantly lower than the chances of serious side-effects from Covid, amongst all age groups. Which makes it a smart decision for everybody, no?

 

The government confirmed at today's briefing that 60% of those in hospital with covid were double jabbed and referred, for the first time that I'm aware of, to the 10% for whom the vaccine isn't effective for.

 

Sounds like the makings of a wonderful society you have in mind.

 

But the medical advise (the official one) is to have it right? I’m not defending forcing vaccine on people. Maybe you misread. What I’m saying is doesn’t it make sense to follow the official advise. It’s clear the vaccine has significantly helped us move towards normality. Your stats talk about an age group. Would you agree then that if the stats you refer are true then we shouldn’t even make the jab available to that age group and ensure focus is on others? I don’t like what the gov have done, but i do believe that it makes sense for eligible people to take up the vaccine.

 

Got my second one on Friday, I'm certainly not against the vaccine, it clearly works and we should be pushing that message hard.
For me though this is too far, forcing people to prove they have had the chemicals the state deems necessary injected into them would have previously seemed unthinkable to me. The real worry here is its just the thin end of the wedge.

 

Strong stuff the AZ knocked me out for 4 days.

Bit dodgy this vaccine passport lark. Not got a lot of sympathy for them that refuse to take it because i think they’re idiots, same as I don’t have much sympathy for Tory voters on minimum wage. But it’s just not ethical to force people to have an injection they don’t want to have. I’m pretty convinced this is just a big scare tactic from the government to get the young uns jabbed up, then it’ll be dropped as an idea.

 

It took a while for infections to spread from the young to the vulnerable last autumn during the second wave. We were told not so long ago that very few of those hospitalised in the third wave had been double jabbed. This has now risen alarmingly to 60% of hospital admissions. Meanwhile the fully vaccinated are walking around with a flawed confidence that they are invincible.

 

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Correct. That wasn’t my point though. I already said I didn’t agree with the gov. My point was doesn’t it logically make sense to follow the official medical advise? Personally i would have the jabs if i was 19 irrespective if it got me into a club or not. I have been refused entry to many clubs in my time even without the government intervening ;-)

 

Some horrible, horrible comments on this thread. People need to stop judging those who choose not to have the vaccination as selfish and somehow subhuman - a person still has the right to choose what goes in their body. Today's announcement is pure discrimination against civil liberties. As are covid passports.

 

I respect this argument completely. But how do we deal with people refusing because of anti-vaxxer misinformation? We've been trying education for 30 years since Dr Andrew F**khead Wakefield first started it with his autism lies to try and sell his own vaccine to replace MMR.

Education isn't working.

 

But you have had it right? I haven’t seen any evidence that would have put me off now or at 19.

 

Whilst I have nothing against Covid passports with an option of a negative test instead, I am against Covid passports only. Not only because some people cannot have the vaccine but also because the point of the restrictions is to stop the spread of Covid, if someone tests negative (and the test can be trusted) then they don’t have it and therefore can’t spread it - job done in you come.

I don’t agree with @SuperTyke’s term of referring to negative tests as proving your ‘purity’. It’s not requiring you to be a virgin and without sin, it’s checking you don’t have a particular disease that has been the centre of a pandemic for the past 16 months, a pandemic that is still ongoing.

 

Ok very good.

 

And don't forget, for every person jabbed, one of Coco's chums takes a nice commission.