Conor Chaplin on his departure

I agree with alot of clubs but is differemt for local lads for example trent at liverpool saMe with gerrard and before that neville, scholes, giggs and butt. They were loyal to the core. But them 2 clubs are different. Doesnt really happen anymore at arsenal, spurs chelsea and city. Even kane wanted to leave his boyhood club.

 

You're completely missing the point of the "plan" there's no intention of retaining players for any length of time the whole point is to recruit and within the term of the players first contract sell for a profit it's as simple as that hence Chaplins comments the players know what the score is they are like pieces of meat in a butchers shop available for the right price to whoever will pay it.
Any on field success will always be temporary because without a complete change of culture at the club a successful players / squads will always be moved on at the first sign of an acceptable fee.

 

Tells me a lot that in an industry where there is little loyalty ( and the sport is well known for it from everyone ) that we are singled out on this comment. I have no problem with what he said, in fact I fully agree. Basically in a sport where loyalty is low, we seem to have made it even lower.

 

Whilst I think our club have got everything wrong recently especially the buying or bringing on of top talent alately and balancing the team .
The talk of loyalty from clubs , managers, players falls on deaf ears as far as I’m concerned .
I just think Connor hasn’t handled rejection very good imo .

 

I'd say the club did brilliant in selling Chaplin and then buying Morris for probably less money.

 

Except they didn't. Morris was signed in January, Chaplin sold in the Summer. We replaced Chaplin with Oulare & Iseka.

 

Well said CC...think it's obvious how far from an acceptable and professional level Conway had reduced our club to...Any form of Gratitude or respect for anyone working at the club went out of the window with Conway...Never forget the 21 worded statement that he issued that alone showed him up for what he was.He was an embarrassment not only to the club and its supporters but the town and its good people too...Conway alone fell far short of the standards expected from a person in such a powerful position...so is there any wonder standards dropped vastly at the club..they were a reflection of Conways attitude....a narcissistic attitude all round who thought he knew better than anyone else...so is there any wonder CC has come out with what he has ....fair play to him, pound to a penny he would have liked to have said more but kept it in the realms of professional conduct when replying to the question put to him...

 

I think the subtle difference is that the turnover of players at other clubs, in the main, is in the pursuit of on field success.

With us the player trading is why the ‘investors’ are invested in BFC.

That may be grossly over simplifying it but reading the Counter Press Spac prospectus makes that abundantly clear.

 

Yes… a lot higher. A quick look at the teams in this Division and we’re about 12th in terms of ‘size, history, crowds and ambition’. Not a nice place to be and I’d hope for better, particularly in relation to ambition.

Division 3 is not the extent of my ambition for BFC.

 

Fair dos. it Sounds like he didn't want to leave? He will probably respect the fans when he scores at Oakwell.. I would like to think..?

 

History and crowds, I'd say we're below:

Bolton
Wednesday
Ipswich
Pompey
Charlton
Derby

Maybe Plymouth at a push but I can't ever remember them being a division above us.

So we're not quite as far down as you say in my opinion. Now if we're just talking ambition you're probably right, sadly.

 

I thought we signed Morris 6 months before Oulare and Iseka.

 

That's true, but it isn't what you posted.
"I'd say the club did brilliant in selling Chaplin and then buying Morris for probably less money."
Selling Chaplin and then buying Morris is what you wrote and that did not happen. Morris was purchased six months before Chaplin was sold. Oulare & Iseka were then signed after the sale of Chaplin.

 

Good observation.

I can't, and wouldn't want to, criticise Chaplin as I've said the same myself, many times. We have existed the last few years simply to trade players. The games have been the shop window in which we display our wares. And Chaplin wasn't disrespectful, he was just accurate.

Others who have said there is no loyalty in football also have a point. But this post by @icer has it bang on: In an industry with an already low bar we have managed to lower it further.

 

When!? You mean if surely!? No problems with anything he did it said, as long as he wasn't celebrating in front of the away fsns, we know he has stronger ties with Portsmouth.

 

My mistake, I was thinking that we sold Chaplin earlier than last year, it seems ages since he played for us.

 

I loved chappie for his work rate and by all accounts he was great around the dressing room etc. could finish too as yesterday showed. One of many mistakes made by the joker that was Conway. Wish him well and thank him for the great escape season as he was phenomenal in a front 3 that season

 

My approach to Chaplin's feedback is to look at his words in isolation. Chaplin himself has nothing to do with the way the game has changed in terms of loyalty/contracts/agents etc. It also has nothing to do with his goalscoring record or how good he is versus anyone else. It's about the way the club is perceived by its players at the time, and in the aftermath when they move on, or in Chaplin's case, are moved on.

Chaplin is describing the way he was treated and it's down to others to make their own minds up whether he is telling the truth or not. I for one believe him, and it's sad to read.

 

I agree with what Conor has said. Hopefully, this is what MD is trying to rebuild - a sense of trust and a realisation that players are more than just commodities to be bought and sold. How would that make anyone feel regarding loyalty to a club? Issues of their personal life and development, as well as their welfare also matter in the building of a team and a team spirit. I think that Conor got this spot on and am glad that he had the guts to come out and say it. That was a major factor that we bombed last season without much doubt. You only have to look at the improved performances of Benson and Thomas to see how important is the welfare management of players if you want to build a team ethic across the whole club.

 

No problems with him celebrating but didn’t like him goading Brad on way back to the centre line. Had 3 or 4 goes at trying to getting a response but Brad ignored him. Lost my respect at that point.