Cost of living v Season ticket renewal

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  1. Redstone

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    I took it as "if you genuinely can't afford £300 then you probably can't sensibly justify £150.
     
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    yeah my grandad never went back. A shameful period in our history
     
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    When I was younger we offered ‘passport to Leisure’ which amongst other things got unemployed / poorly paid reduced entrance to Oakwell.
     
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    Match day pricing maybe, but I don't think it would work with a season ticket.
     
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    Not quite what I was saying like. I wasn't trying to generalise for one. I think offering discounted tickets would be a good gesture. I think with a season ticket, it still wouldn't work for many. I save up for mine over the course of 6 months.

    Anyway, I came back here to post this, which I think is absolutely fantastic:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-61646888.amp
     
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    Can't work with a season ticket as I intimated.
     
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    I think the early bird prices should have been the price full stop, for this coming season anyway. They will have to do everything they can to win a lot of fans back
     
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    They effectively are, with the finance plan. It’s about time we accept there are a small section of fans who just wont come back, and are being unrealistic with what they expect the club to do to ‘win them back’. I think the Club will see c7000 STs as a decent number, under the circumstances.
     
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    I’m personally always happy to support price reductions for people less able to afford. However I also think there has to be a realistic balance. For one, any incentives always come off the bottom line. Every pound offered as a discount is likely a pound less from the operational budget, which means player budget. Having massive discounts while maintaining the same player budget simply isn’t realistic.

    That said, unfortunately there’s a point at which having a season ticket just isn’t affordable. If people are having to seriously think about food vs football - then for me it feels likely that they just can’t afford a ST.

    Barnsley STs still compare very well to other Clubs.
     
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    Fully agree with every word you have said but i just want to throw in:

    An empty seat brings in no money.
    An empty seat adds nothing to the atmosphere.

    If we are up near the top of the league the ground will fill up eg if we make the play off final we will sell more than 6.5k wembley tickets but we need that income and support now.
     
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    Yeah agree. I’m not sure the empty seats are necessarily linked to prices though. If you look at our average attendances in the 3rd tier over the last 20 years, with exception of the Stendel season, the numbers are incredibly consistent at around 9k. As a club we’re around £7m down before kicking a ball. Every discount the Club offer, just makes that number bigger.
     
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    Personally I think that as it is a leisure activity then it is hard to justify a reduction as fully employed fans are also feeling the pinch but a few games where they could offer say a £ 5 entry price for adults kids for a quid would maybe give the less fortunate a chance go to a match , obviously they can only do that a few times a season otherwise it would be pointless buying a season ticket but as they say every little helps
    I believe that if that was the case then you would find that by just offering one price from the start would have resulted in a higher price than the current early bird ticket & as there would have been no incentive for fans to renew early with fans hanging on until the last possible minute & causing more financial problems for the club through the summer months & thus affecting our activity in the transfer market .
     
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    Personally I think that as it is a leisure activity then it is hard to justify a reduction as fully employed fans are also feeling the pinch but a few games where they could offer say a £ 5 entry price for adults kids for a quid would maybe give the less fortunate a chance go to a match , obviously they can only do that a few times a season otherwise it would be pointless buying a season ticket but as they say every little helps
    I was a striking miner & can assure you they did exactly the opposite , jack sh-t !
     
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    Said the same in another thread lil,
    I wrote to the club (as a season ticket holding striking miner) To consider matching what carlisle did the season before the strike. £1 entry home and away fans. As a gesture to miners and carlisle fans.
    By coincidence Carlisle was the last game of the season away 82/83. And Home 83/84. (2 months into the strike)
    Mr Spinks replied in writing and said they (the board) considered it. I don't remember the exact wording. But basically I was disappointed with the response. (It wasn't apparantly deemed the right thing to do at the time). I also can't remember any discounts being offered the next season. (Bear in mind the strike didn't finish till march.) Piss poor in my view.
    Re bucket collections I think you are right but couldn't say for sure. Would love to know what the excuses for that were.
     
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    But the new board have to get their fingers out and like one comment i read is there is only so many business days at oakwell, therefore they have to fill the empty days with other events like other clubs, eg concerts, shows, whatever
     
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    People also like to see something for their money and i have said if they got rid of the franchises for food and drinks and to an extent souvenirs. If the entry price was low then 9 out of 10 would buy something inside the ground . I know the franchises give x amount per season but doesn't allow for bigger crowds buying more. I know it could work the other way with lower crowds but i honestly believe we have that 7000 hard core supporters who will turn up no matter what
     
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