RE: Just bought a ton of fertilizer It's about maximum publicity and disruption though. Detonate a bomb in a City centre and you cause disruption in that city. Detonate in an airport or on a plane and you cause disruption in airports around the world.
The airport security measures...... </p> ....are there to stop people blowing up planes not to catch people trying to smuggle explosives into the country. And the 7/7 attacks (in which home-made organic peroxide based devices were used) constituted the biggest terrorist attack on London in its history.</p> Apart from that spot-on.</p>
To be fair He didn't mention anything about people trying to smuggle explosives into the country - he said smuggling onto a plane and detonating it.
To be even fairer He said there haven't been any terrorist attacks on any cities. Which is either extremely forgetful on his part or just ******* stupid.
RE: I think a lot of people who were in London on 7 July 2005 will disagree with you about that nt You missed the point - im not saying that there is *no threat*, as clearly there is, just that the *actual* threat is vastly overplayed. The IRA had far more success in killing people both civilians and political representitives, yet not at any point did the government of the day fritter away our civil rights whilst claiming that they were "protecting us". Did the IRA succeed? No. Will the Muslim Extremists succeed? No. For fecks sake people died in two world wars to defend our hard fought for rights. Maybe im wrong, but I get the feeling that if those who died in London that day could speak, they most certainly would not want us to bow down to the terrorists and allow the government to enact even more repressive legislation. Stiff upper lip? More like limp wristed pansies. Not all directed at you Jay btw....
RE: The airport security measures...... You're entirely missing the point. It's not that people can't or haven't tried to detonate bombs on planes, but that if they really had the will there are *far easier* ways to blow people up than trying to smuggle it aboard a plane. ie they could do it in any city centre on any given day. Given the lack of explosions and given the very small number that have succeeded im not quite sure why you're so keen to firtter away hundreds of years of civil rights. [/QUOTE]and the 7/7 attacks (in which home-made organic peroxide based devices were used) constituted the biggest terrorist attack on London in its history.[/QUOTE] But not the biggest in UK history. And like I said, you don't need to be an expert to make a bomb, making it far easier for any Islamic knobjockey to have a go. I find you so darkly amusing. You're quite happy to sit there and preach about the virtues of invading Iraq, kill hundreds of thousands of people, release wave after wave of killing on the country - yet one bomb, as awful as it was in London, and you're off cowering behind the government with your tail between your legs. I take it Bahgad isn't on your holiday destination list this year? Quite.
You quite clearly did "Yet the fact it has yet to happen should say at least something about the level of the threat."
You're all over the place today aren't you? </p> There are easier ways to blow people up. Like 7/7. The biggest terrorist attack on London in its history. Not the UK. London. The one you forgot.</p> You then, in your obvious embarrassment,continue with your usual attempts to discredit me. This time I'm "quite happy to sit there and preach about the virtues of invading Iraq, kill hundreds of thousands of people, release wave after wave of killing on the country tec blah blah blah." Where the **** do you get this stuff from? What's going on in your head? </p> I don't think you're amused Acky. You're shown up and, as usual, on the attack.</p> Here, save yourself any future embarrassment - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings</p>
RE: You're all over the place today aren't you? My original point was in response to a post about blowing people up in an airport. The point I made was that if you were so inclined you could do it in the middle of a shopping centre in any major city with little risk of being caught. Train stations and airports do have high levels of security, whereas blowing yourself up in Selfridges is far easier to do. If the Islamic Extremists are as cunning and a plenty as we are told, then where are all these attacks? One successful attack, as bad as it was, does not mean we should throw away all our rights for some mythical safety that cannot stop people making home made bombs and blowing people up. Discredit a chickenhawk armchair warrior who calls for war from the safety of his keyboard in Darton? I hardly need to bother old boy.
RE: You're all over the place today aren't you? </p> And you also said they haven't done it. Which they have killing 52 people in the biggest terrorist attack London has ever seen. You were wrong. Like I said before you don't have to keep pointing out how selfish you are. You've already stated that you'd rather run the risk of another 50 people being blown to **** than suffer this imagined loss of liberties you keep gibbering on about.</p> And there have been plenty of foiledplans for terrorist attacksbut, don't tell me, the government made those up right? </p> As for the "armchair warrior" remark I'll file that along with all your other pusillanimous ********. I've told you enough times that I supported military action against Saddam for humanitarian reasons. You can sneer at that all you like (you're very good at sneering) but your assumption that you can somehow know how things would have panned out otherwise and that you've been somehow vindicated displays staggering arrogance. </p> </p>
£3k a fooking day? Is that what increased taxes and fuel duty go towards? Wouldn't it just be cheaper to run em down in a van?</p> Solves prison overcrowding too... </p> </p>
"limp wristed pansies" going after terrorists? </p> You silly ****.</p> And you've some need to talk, you **** yourself when that bloke offered to put his foot down your throat when you were gobbing off at Oakwell. You went all pale and quiet. I reckon you two would have got on, turned out he was all mouth as well. I couldn't have caught him on a motorbike.</p>
Hold on a minute That's compensation for people who are not charged, i.e. held for over 4 weeks yet the police then say "off you go, you didn't do anything wrong after all", what's that got to do with prison places. They don't have the evidence to even bring charges, yet alone get a conviction. Now imagine if you were held for over 4 weeks and then released without charge - something tells me you'd be screaming for compensation as well.