crritisisum of stones on here is appalling he didn't play that bad

Re: He's still learning the game

Talking sense as usual.

 

I agree. Mistake made putting him and Cranie where they were put.

 

If Stones has had some abuse, which I haven't read then. That shows everything what is wrong with our club.

Why is there a need to have a go at our players, you would be an idiot to tell a mate who's also a player where looking to sign. Join us, its a great ground to play at.

 

I'm more appalled by your spelling

Where the fook did you find crritisisum? Is it a garden plant?

 

Totally agree. He was actually playing three positions for a large proportion of the game. To me the big issue last night, in the early stages at least, was Wiseman. I think he's done really well against the type of pacy forward you tend to get in the Championship, because that's his strength. But he's not particularly good in the air. For their second goal he had plenty of time to see the cross coming in, but was not only out-jumped by Barnett he also failed to impede him in any way. A good central defender in that position nudges his opponent to put him off-balance. That's why you see so few headed goals from that far out.

Am also a bit worried about Hill in that he currently appears to have the knack of making substitutions that make things worse. If he got the starting team wrong in terms of shape and personnel, his substitutions did little to remedy it.

 

He's a first team player now so open to critisism when he doesn't play well just like the rest of them. Just like when he plays really well he gets praised for it.

 

I'd hardly class someone saying he was 'poor' as abuse.

Btw, I've had nowt to say about him, other than he's a young lad and so his form will fluctuate - to be expected.

I'm too busy with my Wiseman hating to start picking on anybody else.

 

I thought Stones played ok. If anything he was trying to do too much on his own due to the poor team performance.

 

Don't want to be critical of a young player, especially one so evidently gifted, but he was all over the place last night. Someone above said he was trying to play 3 positions, which is true but why? He forgot to attend to the basics of the right back position but wandering too far up field and on a couple of occasions actually running the ball out of play. Then going on aimless cross field runs then losing the ball and ending up stranded on the left wing. Hassell should have had a word with him, probably did. I would have rather seen him go off than suffer criticism (the dull correct spelling) for a bad game.

I don't like to pull the team to bits, they are all world beaters in my eyes - but we have to be aware where the weaknesses are because that was a terrible game to lose.

 

But who provides the width in that system if the full backs don't, and if Stones does not try to get beyond the full back, who does that job in that system. The criticism is on the same basis as Wiseman gets criticism when he plays full back. Of course, Hassell would not get so badly out of position, because Hassell cannot play that sort of game, and that is why Hassell cannot get into the team, the manager wants the full backs to provide the width in the final third. If you don't want that, then you want a different system, or even a different manager.

 

We have never replaced Shackell. We are desperately needing a BIG centre half. We missed the presence of Foster. We are all small players and most Premier and Championship players are six foot plus. Peterborough out jumped us every time. Re Wiseman I think he does ok but at sometime in the match he will go brain dead and make poor decisions. I wonder if Stonesy would convert to Centre half?

 

He was better going forward than he was in defence last night. He was trying to make things happen in the second half and he got frustrated. He's a very young lad on a learning curve and the setbacks will do him good - character building.

As has been said, there were far worse players than him.

 

Isn't Jim Beckenbauer the replacement for Shackell?? Not in ability so much but in terms of physique he's a dead ringer.

 

I've not been on here today and not seen posts about last night but to say I'm stunned is an understatement! There is criticism of Stones? He was the only player last night trying to do something and willing to run at players...MoM for me!

 

Couldn't disagree more with this. Wiseman waits until Golbourne has 2 men closing him down before he gives him the ball. Constantly given the ball with little to no option other than to go backwards.

Wiseman's distribution is so slow its unbelievable.

 

Re: He's still learning the game

I don't think anyone ever said that Cranie was dominant. We just preferred him as a defender to most of the others.

As it turns out we need to play him in front of the back four as nobody else is disciplined/mobile enough to do it.

 

Re: He's still learning the game

Crainies not big... but I didn't think he did a lot wrong,seemed to win his headers to me,Wiseman was just outjumped for both goals....can't really blame anyone else