Daniel Stendel again?

I really liked Dougall, and delighted he's making a go of it at Blackpool after some horrific injuries.

I think the reality is at the time, the fan base, as ever, was polarised and what we were left with after relegation wasn't an obvious success waiting to happen. The style changed massively and Stendel has to take great praise for the style and swashbuckle he brought to a very enjoyable season.

We could well be faced with the same situation next season where players who currently aren't rated come into their own and become very good players at that level. Or players we had high hopes for just can't be bothered and wither away.

 

Would rather him than a foreigner I’ve never heard of from the Swedish third division.

 

'This'

 

Agree with alot of that some bad descisons by managers in that relegation season were made in terms of loaning mowatt, having pinnock as a 4th choice centre back. Did val have that much backing? He was given dike on loan but apart from that worked miracles with a average squad.

 

There were quite a few writing many players off and our chances of bouncing back from relegation at the 1st time of asking. Which is the only time we have ever bounces back straight away in our history. Pinnock was 4th choice center back under morais and hecky no one knew how good he would be, mowatt had been loaned out, potts was getting booed off the pitch every week,cavare was a scapegoat squad looked low on confidence. So were saying we would do well many others saying different many said sunderland would piss the league under jack ross....

 

He got Morris too.

He specifically wanted more forwards so he could rotate.

 

Eddie Howe did a pretty good job going back to Bournemouth too

 

Ah forgot about morris he was backed but had us really overachiving with a average squad, but in the 1st 9 games under struber we had one point that season for me val did a great job with a limited squad got us in the play offs v teams who budget dwarfed ours. He had a plan and had the players respect... unfortunately schopo had neither and turnes out some of the worst football i have ever seen.

 

I actually think some of the stuff Asbaghi has turned out has been even worse given the players he's had at his disposal. At least Schopp tried to get his team to attack.

Two poor and very costly appointments this season.

 

Before we got Morris and Dike, we had Mowatt and James in midfield. Add Sollbauer, Helik, Frieser and Woodrow, we didn’t have a team of kids for the first time in a long while. We lost that again, particularly in midfield, but also in defence for spells when Andersen or Helik have been out.

 

Agree 100%. The rewriting history by some is astonishing. There were very few on the BBS claiming we were a shoe-in for promotion the Summer of 2018. In fact, there were many insisting that we'd face another relegation battle because the players were all losers, we'd appointed a German who they claimed couldn't speak a word of English and we should've appointed a Head Coach with experience of Division 1, as they were the only type to win promotion.

 

I’d have him back in a heartbeat.

 

Cant agree I watched every game schopp served up at times it was like we 11 players who had never met before and no idea what we were doing. Val wanted to play football in the opposing half i genuinely thought schopp wanted to do the opposite.
As for poya i just find him incredibly negative the amount of points we have dropped from winning positions speaks volumes.

 

It's a shame about Poya. Organisationally he's one of the best I've seen. The players are as well drilled as they were under Struber and Val. It's shame the Geography Teacher got the job in the summer. I know it isn't great to watch but under a full season of Poya we'd be higher up the table.

 

I thought we played some fabulous football under Schopp, but it was extremely fleeting. 60 minutes against QPR was sublime, but our persistent high line with players who seemed like they were going through the motions and a midfield completely out of his depth didn't help. I've not seen anything else match that under Asbaghi, though he is certainly more organised, but then it's easy to be more organised if you never try and die of misadventure.

 

I'd love him to come back, but he won't under these owners. Before he separated from us, I was trying to educate him to enjoy curry, with no success whatsoever. I'd love to take up the challenge again

 

The reason why I wouldn't want Stendel back is, he did well with a good squad in league 1, but didn't know how to adjust the style of play for the championship.

The relentless attacking worked in league 1 as we had probably the best team, but when we went up, Stendel made no attempts to compensate for no longer having the best attacking team in the division. We had one way of playing, which was phenomenal when we had a good team in a poor league, but didn't work when we had a limited team in a good league.

 

I think the first 45 against QPR was the only decent football we played under Schopp, and Warburton realised what was happening and did us with his substitutes.

I'm not sure he would've done any better even with better players, because his complete lack of organisation would undermine anything we did. Sadly, Asbaghi is on the other end of the scale, and still naively believes that we can see out a game and control things without the ball. When a mistake will inevitably happen. Reminds me of the current England head coach in that respect.

I suspect that if Asbaghi (and Sibila) had been around all season, we'd have been slightly better off, but still under performed.

But ultimately, the failure to get any experience in the middle of the pitch proved fatal, and the Reading game proved that imo. When teams are starting to get on top of you, you need your experienced players and the leaders in the team to drag the younger players through, because they've been through it before and know what's required. And we don't have that. (and before anybody suggests it, Herbie Kane wouldn't have provided that either!)

 

I'm not saying Schopp was any form of messiah, he certainly wasn't. But I saw more glimpses of a team i'd rather watch in that time than I have under Asbaghi. But you're right, our recruitment was atrocious. That includes some of the players we let go as well as acquired. But then we don't appreciate or value knowledge and experience as much as having no experience or idea but just being "hungry". And looking at some of the comments even from Asbaghi, we seemingly never will.

 

Fabulous football under schopp? I like my football to be flowing use width and create chances under schopp we did none of that. Ill give you a decent 45 minutes v qpr untill warburton changed things around but apart from that the football was awful we went god knows how long without scoring or creating chances we could have been still in blackpool now and we still wouldnt have troubled there keeper. Although poya is similar going games without shots on goal or corners.

One thing i will say about schopp is he came from a poor league where the average attendance is simlar to the English conference and couldnt bring his back room staff looked totally out of his depth from the off and it was shocking even the players were slating him in public and he wasnt given the sack sooner. The ceo referred to him as the wrong appointment in his interview and ill agree with him on that.