Danny sez Micky Mellon's gi'd him a few pointers with regard to certain players

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  1. DEETEE

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    I thought hassell did so well v mason I didn't even know the number 16 was playing...


    Oh wait. Mason didn't play for derby last season v barnsley.
     
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    I think it's very easy to put that stat out and say we've scored a lot too.

    I now think in the last 6 games we've not been bad at the back and not been good up front which is different from the first 10 games or so.

    http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/CurrentForm/0,,10794~20137,00.html

    The form table shows we've let 7 in and only scored 3. Now that shows us in black and white our problems for a little while now too.

    Just had a quick scan down the list and only 10 teams have let less in but NONE of scored less.
     
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    16 year old mason Bennett didn't play.
    Sorry I put is first name, sorry.
     
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    so basically, you're now assessing bobby hassell's ability, on the back of a performance against someone who didn't play? brilliant tekkers. keep up the good work.
     
  5. Whi

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    I said that I was impressed with him, meaning generally, over the decade. But of course he's made mistakes, had poor games. Who doesn't?
    However, your example was a poor one, for the reason given already by BigLil. As was your example of the Charlton game when having a pop at Steele yesterday. Steele was faultless. The defenders ahead of him that day were all over the place, Digby was thrown on and got in the way at times, and then Kennedy chose to use the wrong foot to clear off the line.
     
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    Not for me Whitey but have you seen my Goals against post. That shows us what the problems are.
    Up front. Only Tudgays in form for me and hes only on loan.
     
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    Although i agree that Bobby is the best defender at the club, i dont think i'd start him against Leeds. He's been frozen out for too long to be as sharp as he would need to be. Id give him 15 minutes to half an hour off the bench over the Christmas period to get that much needed match sharpness back and prepare him to be a mainstay in the defence with Cranie for the second half of the season.

    Also in an ideal world, id like to see him on the right hand side of a back 3(like danny played in the glory days) with Nyatanga on the left and Cranie as a Matty Appleby-esq sweeper/centre half...
     
  8. Whi

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    We're missing O'Grady. That's the reason we haven't scored so many in the last 5 or 6 games. That, and Flitcroft's tactics.
    But then, O'Grady is the striker you think we don't need, isn't he?
    The defence is the issue, and Danny himself admitted as much today.
     
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    You can't give one game as an example of why someone shouldn't play - most players have a poor game. Bobby has been consistently one of our better performers. As for jason and any of our strikers - service and delivery into the box has been dreadful. Strikers like scotland thrive on that chance or half chance in the box
     
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    i'm afraid you'll only be given information on the odd off game. the hundreds of brilliant ones aren't relevant here.
     
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    Don't think hes played well for a long time either Whitey.
    He said we need to tighten it up which is correct. 10 minutes spells have cost Barnsley in a lot of games especially away from Oakwell.

    on the strikers. O'Grady Pedersen Scotland Dagnall all had chances and not done it.
    Chance after chance missed by them all.
    Was Reading the last time O'Grady scored.
     
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    O'Grady not done it? I actually agree with you that Tudgay is our best striker but to say COG hasn't done it is just silly. Your assessing his time with us on the last few games he played for us, under crap tactics, ignoring his good form for just about his entire time with us before that. Similar to how you assess Bobby and Luke, selective sampling. If you like.
     
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    O'Grady, like many of our players, have suffered as a result of Flicker's dreadful formations and tactical decisions. Playing him out on the wing, 30 yards out, back to goal, with no one ahead of him, isn't ideal.
     
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    I see Nelsons been doing his daily Hassell bashing. Nowt new there then.
     
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    I've tried to resist joining the bandwagon of people having a pop at you, because with your summary of the team higher up this thread it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. But I just want to pick you up on one point.

    Thankfully Wilson will base his opinions on what he sees by watching the games and not what he sees in the goals against column. The only reason the goals against is seven, rather than thirteen, is because Yeovil missed all the chances our useless defence handed them on a plate on Saturday. It is the amount of chances we give the opposition which will concern the manager more than how many the opposition actually score. Against a better strikeforce like the one Leeds has the defensive frailties we showed against Yeovil would become much more obvious and costly.

    I agree that goals for is a big issue too, but playing your strikers on the wing and having little in the way of creativity in the team doesn't help that. We need to get that right too, but we'd only need one goal to win most games if the defence does its job.
     
  16. Whi

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    I'd say Paddy and to a certain extent Cranie have been our best performers of late. But then, Paddy is another one you don't like.
     
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    McCourts very hot and cold Whitey I feel.
     
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    Have I seriously read that....

    Take away the penalty on Saturday and he was as average as you get....

    In fact I think it was only because of the pen he stayed on the pitch to the end

    You can't be in form when you have played as little as he has. He aint had time to be in form
     
  19. Whi

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    Course he is. If he was always scoring amazing goals, regularly, he'd be at Barcelona. But I know what you mean. He's one of the most skillful players I have ever seen, BFC or otherwise. But he looks piss poor at times. Hence being at Oakwell and not Camp Nou.
     
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    Only the other day you said this was ok. Because alan shearer said so
     

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