Davey must justify his job... from the BBC

Yeah, we know.

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Davey's alright andthe fans areall cnuts. </p>

FFS sake change the record.</p>

 

I'd love 1 but we don't have a manager who fits that description

Davey doesn't know his players. If he did he would know that JCR is not a central midfielder and bogdanovic is not a winger.

If he was learning from his mistakes he would not still be regularly trying to hold on to a one nil lead (or sometimes a nil nil draw) when his players are incapable of doing so.

 

Which, roughly translated, means...

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...to tell you the truth I'm not right bothered what league we're in,I just want a quiet life and a team to watch.</p>

 

"the carpark isn't getting filled on a regular basis, might as well build on it". I don't know who you'd hear making a quote like that, I just thought i'd say it randomly.

 

He might change nt

 

shown nothing in three seasons to suggest that he will

I think that a fairer set of options are What would you rather have?
1. a manager that has been in charge for three seasons now and shown no signs of improvement during that time despite having spent millions and dipped into the transfer market 45 times. A manager that doesn't seem to know the clubs players strengths or weaknesses despite watching said players make mistakes week in, week out. A manager that chose to release our only up and coming centre back only to then announce weeks later that we had no defenders and would need to try to sign one. A manager so reluctant to give youth a chance that even the young player of the year managed a mere three substitute appearences in the league clocking up just 106 minutes of first team action.

or 2. A manager that may or may not bring success but surely can't be any worse than the above

 

re mr Crynes comments.Its supprising how good the the eye sight becomes when someone squeeszes the balls?

 

We should not change just for change's sake...

... we should not change just to get rid of Davey. If we are to change it should be towards an improvement. The former is a very negative way of dealing with things. With regard to an improvement let's have suggestions. </p>

Curbishley... already stated Premier League club or nothing</p>

Pardew... did not cover himself with glory at Charlton</p>

Roeder ... see Pardew substitute Norwich</p>

Jewell ... see Pardew substitute Derby &amp; too many news of the world matters</p>

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As for lower league mangers such as Mark Robbins, no championship experience and also in a job.</p>

The one who isn't in a job and seems to me a stand out candidate is Paul Ince.</p>

I'm not happy with the quality of what I've seen last season but I'm just cautious that we move towards something better rather than just junk what we have in a change for change sake manner.</p>

Only my opinion and I know it won't be popular but I'd appreciate if you feel inclined to post in disagreement then rather than just 'Davey out' come up with one candidate you believe would a) improve the situation and why and...b) be interested in the job and why</p>

It's all a matter of discussion and opnions.</p>

Dave</p>

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Listen to interview on BBC ... its obvious ...Davey's going nowhere

Things like '...would there bea player exodus if he left?' '..... never lost the dressing room when it was tough' etc</p>

This is Patrick saying to Davey, 'you need to get the fans on your side'. to paraphrase 'get some coal dust in his lungs'.</p>

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Personally don't mind one way or the other. There's a fine line between success and failure. a bit of success can do wonders for a team's confidence, and if confidence is high results generally follow</p>

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point 2

... why couldn't a new manager be any worse ?</p>

if we'd brought a hero figurein straight after the Norwich game, say Neil Redfearn in the way that Norwich did with Gunn, he MAY not have had the experience to have kept us up and tarnished his hero status.</p>

I'm not saying that a change would be a bad thing but to make the changeon the basis that a new manager can't be any worse is not the way I'd like to seea decision made.</p>

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Experienced managers rarely come without a certain 'baggage'

Invariably they will have failed with at least one club. Does the failure of Pardew at Charlton Athletic outweigh the success he had at Reading and West Ham United? Does the failure of Jewell at Sheffield Wednesday & Derby County outweigh the success he had at Bradford City and Wigan Athletic? Does the failure of Ince at Blackburn Rovers outweigh the success he had at Macclesfield Town and MK Dons? Even Sir Alex Ferguson was once sacked by St. Mirren.

 

RE: jonn sherridan ????/

Glad you wasn't in charge when Danny Wilson became our manager.

 

I don't disagree with that because most managers do not

leave their post as a winner, they are generally sacked so will have baggage. I'm putting the other side of the arguement to ' we must get rid of the manager as no one could do a worse job' which is posted frequently on this site. </p>

BTW what would you do in PC's situation, stick or twist ? </p>

 

What I'm trying to say is...

... managers take time to develop. They make mistakes, but some of them do learn and become good managers after serving their &quot;apprenticeship&quot;</p>

Whichever way you look at it, Simon Davey has kept this club in the Championship for 3 seasons. It has been close, sometimes closer than other times, but he has done it.</p>

If we are to believe interviews and reports, the players are more with him than against him. Sometimes they blame themselves.</p>

It's a flawed argument just to say dismiss him now. What has he not achieved that we are so picky about? Mid-table, promotion, a double over the blunts? </p>

Despite a very limited budget, despite five years out of receivership, a welcome rescue from someone who is currently putting more in than he is getting back, we go into next season as a second tier side. That's more than Norwich, Southampton, Charlton, and possibly even Leeds will be doing.</p>

It's easy to say you want out and start anew. We don't pay the bills or pick up the ever increasing running costs.</p>

Next season, thanks partly to Davey and co we can look forward to a &pound;4m bonus, a well known side that can be changed to suit our needs and a manager who must surely have picked up by now his mistakes and know he could be in last chance saloon.</p>

A far far better bet than starting again.</p>

 

RE: jonn sherridan ????/

lets get john sheridan in because??????????.danny wilson got us promoted

 

I don't want Mr Davey as a manager

That's no secret, Dave. If it were me, I'd thank Simon for his efforts but tell him this was where we go our separate ways. However, I don't think we're going to be parting with his services. I see this as a warning shot across Mr Davey's bows by Patrick, as it were.

 

RE: jonn sherridan ????/

1) He gives youth a chance.

2) His teams play football the right way.

3) He knows how to work on a shoestring budget.

4) He knows how to blend youth with experienced players in the same team.

 

RE: What I'm trying to say is...

I am with you RR. A change of manager does not mean we will improve. Our record since Wilson would suggest there is more chance it won't. Maybe we should give SD another chance, if it looks like more of the same after October then time for a change. PC wants stability and that is what we have had. Going into our 4th season in this division, with more money available. It has been a bit nervy at times but we have stayed up, fact. It is a massive decision changing manager, glad I don't have to make it.

 

RE:no point gettin shut,to get ie sheridan in waste of time nt

 

he also knows how to let his players run riot nt