Davey must justify his job... from the BBC

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  1. Archey

    Archey Well-Known Member

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    Glad the club still acknowledges the current economic climate

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    There's more to this than meets the eye imho

    Cryne is either covering his back in the event that he keeps Davey on.

    I.e He can say he had a big sit down with Davey and Davey persuaded him that he is up to the job and he will give him the start of next season (also showing that he understands Davey's failings); or

    He is fishing for new managers in the hope that Ince/Jewell's agent approaches him thus putting him in a stronger negotiating position.

    Either way it is pretty shrewd; or

    I could be reading far too much into this.
     
  3. Oxf

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    RE: I see this as dead-set confirmation that Simon will start next season

    Agreed, PC has to be seen to act.

    My hunch is that he's reluctant to get rid, partly due to the initial termination costs, partly due to the cost involved in appointing and backing a new manager...and partly due to a better the devil you know attitude.

    If he was getting sacked he'd be gone now giving an entire Summer to find a suitable replacement and additional playing staff.
     
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    another relegation battle to look forward to next season, then. oh joy.
     
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    RE: i like it - PC is seeing if Davey has the balls to do this

    I suspect Cryne will have had the conversation privately with Davey and set out his goals for next year. I see this statement merely as a way of appeasing the fans.

    The only way Davey will get the fans back on side is by winning matches. It's another way of saying he's got 10/15 games next year to prove he's cut out for the job.
     
  6. Har

    Hardcore Tyke Banned Idiot

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    nice one pat you know were the money comes from and your now pissing up our backs Barnsley Football Club will not be getting my money untill he's gone and a decent manager is in place .
    stop f#cking about with ******** like this and sack the f#cker its too late for making it up to the fans the blokes a C##T and he as to go .
    if he stays kiss good buy to my season ticket money he's had 3 years and shown nothing towards this club if he tell's you he's proud to be at this club and he likes the people of Barnsley he's a lying ******* . but you should know that by now all the other fans of Barnsley fc do and have done for a long time
     
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    Hardcore Tyke Banned Idiot

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    hes not going to sack him as he is shitting bricks that the players we have will wont to leave
     
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    Bravo! nt
     
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    Re: Davey must justify his job... from the BBC...AKA he is not going to be sacked nt
     
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    Well said Hardcore Tyke not met many Barnsley fans who like the man let alone the style of play he brings with him. Am i wrong but didn't p.c and sir simon target a mid table finish this season? Just wondering what simples target will be next season? More of the same i thinks..........
     
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    Agree with that ******** came to my mind and my back has felt damp since I read it.
     
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    Sounds like Davey is staying if you ask me...

    Cryne sounds weary from three seasons of relegation battles. If it is trying on us, it must be a nightmare for him - he's a supporter and he writes the big cheques, it's a double blow when things go wrong. You hear fans talking about - spend a million on this or spend a million on that, it's real money for Mr Cryne.

    At least he is acknowledging publically that three relegation dogs fights in a row is not good enough and that the manager has jeopardised his position through the overall result of the season and some of the individual tactical issues. Major bonus that he has underscored the fact that the manager has to have a healthy relationship with the fans. Ok, so in Cryne's view the manager has the dressing room - but it is quite public that he does not have the supporters behind him.

    Bottom line, though, for me is that Cryne actually doesn't want to sack Davey, and more to the point, he's not going to do it. He wants the fans to buy season tickets and get behind the club, but he knows that the club will lose support if Davey remains in charge. He is trying to acknowledge the public feeling and build some bridges so that he can keep Davey and sell tickets (have cake and eat it). In all honesty - as grateful as I am towards Patrick Cryne I'm not convinced that he is a football expert - I'm sure that he is a true fan, but I'm not sure he knows where to look for a good manager or necessarily how to land one. I'm sure that he has put a lot of faith in Davey, who certainly talks the talk and would be very reassuring to a owner/chairman who needs a lot of support on the football decision making. I don't doubt that they have probably had a close relationship. I think Mr Cryne is looking to convince the fans by giving Davey one big public last chance.

    Looking at Davey I think he has a strong ego, he appears capable of being very stubborn, and I'm not sure that he is the kind of guy who can go along with being on probation. I just don't think he'll do well with that. As a result he may walk - perhaps not now, maybe when it is most convenient to him and most damaging to us. In which case Mr Cryne will get neither of the things that he wants - the fans will be unsure about how positive the chairman/owner is, and he won't keep Davey either. We could end up in turmoil.

    I think the way forward for Patrick Cryne is to sack Davey on the clear understanding that he gave him a remit at the beginning of the season and he has failed to meet up to that. He should advertise the position and go looking at/for replacements. I think it would be a wise investment to put real money into attracting the right person, with plenty of experience. I think this move would signal to the fans that we're dead serious about installing ourselves in this division for the long term, and it would do wonders for the reputation of the club. At the moment we are really struggling with our reputation because people have long forgotten that we were a Premier League club ten years ago, or that we hold the record for staying longest in the second tier of the game - the media spend more time talking about us going back to the lower leagues and 'surviving three years in a row' - as if, for us, that is a big achievement.

    It's times like these that you need a leader to grip the situation, making a positive decision, and carry the club forward - not dilly dally with maybe we will, maybe we won't statements. If Cryne is not convinced now, by the performances of a full season, he should not be asking Davey to convince him with words and speculation. No amount of verbal spin or dossiers should cover the fact that, if the boss is not convinced of his ability, Davey should be out the door. Actions speak louder than words - and it's time for Davey to go.
     
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    excellent post Hardcore Tyke and I just got off the phone after talking to someone on the same subject. Between now and next week will provide the answers
    of my intentions, meaning, I'm waiting to see which way P.C. will go. I've a feeling it's going to go in a continued direction of a Davey support and as such I will respond in the same way as yourself . Inspite of going through thick and thin throughout the years, since 1955 to be precise, I'm ready to part ways with BFC. It fooking well hurts though.
     
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    RE: jonn sherridan ????/

    Likes to cause problems for the boardroom, and join in extra corricula activities, so I've heard.
     
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    Spot on...

    ..at least 7 more months of Simple Simon to come.
     
  17. BRF

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    Very much agreed.

    nt
     
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    RE: Doesn't sound good for Davey

    Burnley or Preston don't have managers with championship experience
     

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