David Amess

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  1. Sco

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    This is the third attack on an MP in 11 years, and the second murder. MPs are ~7 times more likely to be stabbed than a member of the general public.

    RIP David Amess. I might not have agreed with your politics, but at least you were trying to meet and help your constituents and nobody deserves this at work.
     
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    The only person who advocated for this is the current Home Secretary. I for one wouldn't ever want to be following her lead on pretty much anything.
     
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    If you want Sharia law why not go and live in a country that has it?
     
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    RIP David' nobody deserves that no matter what' lets hope the lunatic responsible never sees the light of day again...
     
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    shed131 - I wont quote your earlier post on this thread as to my mind it's the most troubling post I've ever read on the site.

    You're a decent man and I hope you remove that post.
     
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  6. Red

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    Being murdered for doing your job just doesn't compute. There are so many other ways to air a grievance, what makes someone skip the logical steps and go straight to murder?

    We're going to end up with a political system where all MPs are ring fenced with an iron curtain, detaching them even further from real life. Bad news for good people.
     
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    I'd bring back in an instance take a life you lose yours if 100% proven or you own up to murder. If not life in prison.
    If you're sentence to life it should mean life not 25 years or so.
    I know the grey areas but we need a deterent.
    I also believe if you carry a gun without licence then 10 years or knife then 5 years.
    You don't need to a weapon but all this is for another time
    At the end of the day a man has been doing his job in a church and lost his life RIP
     
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    Then you might want to read a few more posts.

    Cut the lad a bit of slack. His history shows he’s a decent poster and a decent man. There’s quite a few on here who have gone OTT on occasions, myself included. Doesn’t mean they should be instantly shot.
     
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    It doesn't work as a deterrent, it's been proven time and time again. Also how do you assess "100% proven"? All guilty verdicts are already beyond reasonable doubt.
     
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    Horrendous. Wife & 5 kids. Feel for them all.
     
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    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree
    @Helvellyn Red Imagine being on a jury and not only having to find someone guilty and locking them away for life but to then agree to have them killed.


    Too many miscarriages of justice to list, you might want to watch the recent Tiger Bay documentary.

    Murder is the most awful crime, in America they have a death row. Thankfully in recent times most states have them as status holding areas. The death penalty is hardly ever dished out, (well prior to the Orange sociopath being in charge) its usually only in selected right leaning states.

    Murderers however come in many shapes and sizes. Many have psychological and mental issues. Some murders happen arising from situations where someone isn't in control of their emotions. Crimes of passion and rage. But they are punished all the same.

    Murders who have no remorse and have planned them without any diagnosed psychological issues are the worst of the worst. They are treated that way, isolated for the rest of their pitiful lives in a high security setting.

    In surveys and studies those directly affected by murder have stated they don't want offenders to be put to death.

    It serves no one, and the act of killing someone isn't in keeping with a civil society. Most Folk feel sick when it's explained to them how offenders die. The electric chair, lethal injection and hanging aren't slow and painless exercises.
    A penal system always reflects the society from which it is created.
     
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    What a horrible post - not sure what's worse the post or the fact that someone "liked" it!!!
     
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    Very sad. Both main parties suffered horribly similar tragedies in recent years.
     
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    RIP truly shocking!
     
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    I take it you see nothing wrong with his post - I'll stick to my opinion and respect you for having a different opinion re the post.
     
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    Obnoxious .. there's been worse obnoxious posts over the years but I guess you wanted to emphasis your point with exaggeration

    I'd also suggest you don't make assumptions when you don't know anything about the poster....because I've now removed it ....not due to your response or others so how wrong you are with your judgemental attitude....but down to respect for the said person's death

    Time and place was a good comment along with the timing one which I agree
    I've now removed it.....at the time the bloke whilst it doesn't make it right for some wasn't dead when I made the joke regardless of taste in each others humour ...
    I also agreed with the previous posters re it shouldn't be happening no mater the situation....no one should loose their life going about their work.....but its OK you like others overlooked that bit
    Have a good weekend
     
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    It's been a really awful couple of weeks. For most things Barnsley. Things we care and are concerned about and that we want to be put right. There are things political we rightly feel aggrieved by and wish it were something different. And times when we get carried away or conceived in a way we'd not intended.

    Then there are things that affect us in a much deeper way. That are just flat out wrong. And that words can't put right.

    For some reason, even though he's a conservative MP and has voted for many things I simply and whole heartedly disagree with, I feel quite hollow from this. I'm not sure how to articulate it.

    And to top my couple of weeks off, I've just received some personal news I've been waiting the best part of 3 years to hear, and despite expecting it, I'm still not sure I was ready.

    Something good needs to come soon.
     
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    Death penalty isn’t a deterrent. People confess to crimes they haven’t committed. Our judicial system isn’t based on 100% proven. It’s a horrific act, no doubt about it. State sponsored revenge killing isn’t the answer though.
     
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    Shame people resort to thing like this because someone political or religious view differ to theres.
     
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