DEMOCRACY BETRAYED

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  1. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

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    From 2004...

    https://ec.europa.eu/regional_polic...kingdom/south-yorkshire-objective-1-programme
     
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  3. shenk1

    shenk1 Well-Known Member

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    The information on that site only goes back to 2000.
     
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    It may well be your view - but my view is that you'd be wrong.

    The simple fact that we can choose to leave the EU proves that we have sovereignty. Every year our government enacts dozens of laws proving we have sovereignty. The fact that we agree to also share some laws with others to enable fair trade is nigh on insignificant against the power parliament still has. Not the least of which - the power to leave the EU.
     
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    We haven't actually left the EU yet . Your point that somehow because of brexit it's proven we have sovereignty is false .
     
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    In terms of a trading bloc yes but i think we can both agree that the EU is no longer just a trading block and its purpose now is being a centralised 'superstate'
     
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    Seriously? Have you actually read what was written or actually thought about what you were writing?
     
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    No longer just a trading block what the F**K you are on about, its the biggest trading block in the world and dismissing it as a superstate is a ridiculous statement, keep listening to the likes of Farage, Johnson, Rabb, Mann, Patel and Mogg.
     
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    Bore off Tory
     
  10. Don

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    Sovereignty is proven in the fact that EU law allows UK law to enact Article 50. That's how law works, I don't need to have been found guilty of murder to prove that it's possible I could be.
     
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    So the other month everybody was up in arms about the Maybots deal... saying no way, stopping all by parliament.

    Last week, everybody was up in arms about having no deal...

    Now, I know what the spanner throwers on here really want is to return to the EU.

    But what if we do leave? Can you accept that the EU are only going to give us the Maybot deal, especially as they know we can’t say no... the deal that you so hated a few weeks ago?
     
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    Tell you what. Rather than your usual piss and vinegar approach to posts you dont agree with reeling out the same tired keep listening to XYZ politicians lines why dont explain why my statement is ridiculous.

    And wasnt it Corbyn who said more than once he didnt want a EU empire around the time of Lisbon being signed.
     
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    He’s a Euro skeptic.
    But he’s against us leaving without a deal.
    It’s not difficult.
     
  14. Trickster Two Six

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    A vile traitor. I was reading yesterday how he attended the wedding of one of the Guildford 4, ira sympathiser and friend of hamas. Do anything to get in power, you who quickly deride brexiteers as those who dont know what they are voting for want to take a long hard look in the mirror. Stop using ‘Tory’ as a form of insult and research the man you’re supporting.
     
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    The Guildford 4 who were actually not guilty of any terrorise offence. That Guildford 4?

    By the way I am far from a Corbyn supporter but compared to Boris and his current front Bench he is a lot less terrifying
     
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    Have you ever been to a wedding? Was the groom innocent of involvement in an IRA bombing?

    Just checking.

    Anyone who ever doubts the influence of the sh.itrags on the hard-of-thinking might want to take note of this clown’s latest post. Papers print some ridiculous spin about Corbyn and numb-nuts like this swallow it hook, line & sinker. I’m no Corbyn acolyte, but this rubbish shouldn’t be printed about anyone. Think on this; an individual (I won’t say journalist as that’d be an insult to the profession) has been paid actual money to come up with this sh.it.
     
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    the usual lines, the torygraph and the daily fail really have done a job on you. such a shame you choose to believe everything you see. as Farnham has just said is that the Guildford 4 who were innocent and imprisoned illegally, who JC was the local MP for one of, you know like supporting his constituents, something you seemed very keen on our MP's doing last week.
     
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    So the guy whose wedding he attended was one of his constituents.
    He'd been campaigning for his release because he believed him innocent.
    And guess what? He was right.
    So what's your point?
     
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    Oh my!!
    It’s difficult to know where to start.

    Pigeon chess springs to mind.
     
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    Gentlemen, at the time he attended the wedding the bloke had been convicted and was serving his sentence. He was therefore at the time of his wedding a convicted ira terrorist. Dear leader in attending his wedding therefore supporting a convicted ira terrorist. The convictions were quashed owing i believe to some of the evidence later having been deemed to be false. There is, I’m sure you’ll agree a distinction between being guilty and being proven to be guilty. However, lets not forget that at the time dear leader attended a conviction had been made. He also busied himself with campaigning for shorter sentences for those involved in the Brighton bombings and was arrested at a solidarity demonstration outside the Old Bailey during their trial. As we all know, a fortnight after the bombings he invited ira members to tea at the houses of parliament. Not tory press lies all facts. Now ask yourselves this, how would it be on here if a tory mp had attended a solidarity vigil outside the court where the nutter who murdered poor Jo Cox was being tried ?? And what would be the reaction it same tory had invited said nutters buddies from Direct Action to tea a fortnight later. ?? Nowt to do wi tory press, all facts in the public domain.
     
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