DEMOCRACY BETRAYED

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  1. John Peachy

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    Would you be willing to reveal which posters on here are on your "hit list"?
     
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    Have you considered a a career in journalism, or failing that there is a job going as Speaker of the House?

    I'm trying to get my head round these analogies over breakfast & confess I'm feeling a little bilious.
     
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    It's amazing that in the last 2 weeks I've noticed a massive increase of right wing advertising on social media. All anti EU, anti Labour, anti Corbyn, anti Bercow etc.

    It's as though the Tory propaganda machine has been switched on to full speed :rolleyes:

    It obviously works on some people....too many!
     
  4. Jak

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    Forgive me if others have already pointed out the obvious here, but the Guildford 4 were not guilty of anything, they were wrongly imprisoned and tortured. Jeremy was backing a constituent who he believed in, and so you’ve proven once again that Jeremy was on the right side of history as usual.
    This story was mocked all day yesterday on twitter, a Daily Mail story.
    You, Sir, are a numpty.
     
  5. Jak

    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    I was going to say you’ve been brainwashed but....
     
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  6. Trickster Two Six

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    Yes, it should spoil the breakfast of anyone with a bit of oil in their lamp that the bloke for whom they are voting attends the wedding, memorial services and rallies in support of ira members. A vile man. Take the pyss all you please comrades these are all facts easily researched via google, nowt to do with the daily mail,right wing press,propoganda etc etc. FACTS.
     
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  7. Trickster Two Six

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    I was going to say you’d have thought folk bright enough to debate brexit would have the good sense to understand who they are supporting but .....
     
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    Tory councillor Maria Gatland is a former *member* of the provisional IRA.
    Brexit Pary MEP (NorthWest) Claire Fox supported the Warrington bombers (and also argues for the availability of child porn).

    At the time of the wedding, there was significant doubt on the convictions of the Guildford 4 (and Birmingham 6). They were convicted on confessions obtained under what could be described as torture. They were convicted in 1974, and their first appeal in 1977 was unsuccessful but a long campaign including a BBC documentary in 1980 saw them released in 1990.

    At the time of the wedding, in 1988, the home office had issued a memorandum recognizing that they were not terrorists (issued in 1987), but this was insufficient for their release without an appeal.
     
  9. Micky Finn

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    Facts. Megalolz
     
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    FACTS (your version of....)
     
  11. Micky Finn

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    Don’t be coming on here with your facts. Trickster has read all his facts in the sh.itrags, so he must be right.
     
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    Sorry Sir. Forgot the BBS was a fact free zone :)
     
  13. Micky Finn

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    No, facts are fine, as long as they’re alternative and not actual. The ones sourced from sh.itrag headlines.
     
  14. DusThaNoIII

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    I’m absolutely certain that guys on a wind up.
    Ps if he’s not the idea that he’s citing his facts via ‘google’ is hilarious. ‘You all doubt, but I typed Jeremy Corbyn is a **** into google and clicked a google link to scholarly sources infowars and breitbart only to find that what I had already decided was indeed true’
     
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    And your point is ? I wouldn't cote for any of them, what I’m saying is that dear leader is a supporter of the ira and regards other terrorist organisations ( anti American and/or anti British) as his friends. Ignore the FACTS all you want, it’s all there in black and white you just want to have a look. But it’s easier to be dismissive and carry in the Barnsley tradition of voting labour irrespective and hating the tories because they’re the tories. The strike was 35 years ago, time to move on.
     
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  16. DusThaNoIII

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    Please post your scholarly, reputable, peer reviewed sources where I can read it in black and white. Much appreciated.
     
  17. Trickster Two Six

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    Just google it, dear leader Guildford 4, dear leader Brighton Bombings, dear leader ira links, dear leader hamas, Not hard to find once you put the guardian down and switch off the bbc !!
     
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    No, please, again, if it is so easy to find please can you point me in the direction of 5 or 6 reputable sources which validate your statements?
     
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    But you do understand that the Guildford 4 were released on appeal. ie Innocent in British courts.

    It’s just the way you’re repeating it you seem to be suggesting that they’re actual IRA terrorists, which means you are aware of facts not presented to the court.

    This isn’t about one set of media vs another, buts out one set of media playing fast and loose with the truth in order to spread lies.

    Ps You might want to see where the Daily Mail stood re Hitler before you believe what they’re saying about ‘enemies of Britain’.
     
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    Just a general point aimed at people who aren't really aware how google works and the art of fake news.

    Anyone can create an article, a blog, an article in a paper and push it to be more popular than something highly accurate and true.

    I'll give an example, a few weeks back I searched for something relating to bbcqt. A good while back when Fiona Bruce first took over, there was an incident where she was accused of bullying and harassing Diane Abbott and generally whipping up right wing sentiment in the audience.

    There were also articles of plants in the audience.

    This time when I searched, those articles were just about gone, and in their place were articles from the likes of the hatred, express and torygraph that accused her of lying about it and making it up.

    Its very clear that in this electioneering state of propaganda, the oligarch media have been encouraged to push accurate articles down.

    There are certainly signs of fake news, bots and the other sullying aspects of vote leave starting to manifest. If this is democracy, its a very selective one for those who want a certain outcome at any cost.
     
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