To keep hold of good young talent, you need to be able to compete with the wages other championship clubs pay, we can't do that we're out of our depth in that league, as soon as we've got anyone worth keeping and building a side round, someone we take him from us for next to nothing due to the fact he's on a short contract, because we've not got the sort of money you need to tie the better players down to 4/5 year deals which see you maximise your profits instead the players sign 2 year deals and when they've leave they get a little extra in their pay packet, if/when go up if we have any players that take the championship by storm and have us in a healthy position come Christmas they'll be gone by first of February. Leaving us scrapping around for players again
Also, if we get promoted this year, Hourihane, Daveis, Winnall, Mawson, & Scowen will all have just 12 months left on their contracts, do you think their agents are going to allow them to sign a new deal next summer on the wages we can afford to pay, or do you think they'll advise their player to wait until January and see who else is interested, then if they do sign for us other clubs don't think they're good enough, if other clubs are sniffing around we can't compete with the wages they can other and they'll be off. The best we can hope for as a club these days, is a season being **** on in the championship, a year rebuilding in league one and a couple of seasons challenging ending in promotion then repeat.
i think this analysis is pretty much spot on. Until a couple of older established clubs actually go out of business with Bolton or QPR being the favourites it will continue like that.
It's difficult and regardless of which path the club takes, there are always problems. I like the method of signing young, hungry players. The challenge is ensuring you have ones beneath them to come through when the good ones get sold. If you can do that and reinvest the money on good players then you have a good chance, if you have a good manager.
It seems to me that it there is a slightly different dynamic going on. We clearly have a bit of cash to spend, presumably courtesy of our owner. In spite of that, we have failed to spend any of it so far in this transfer window, though I am obviously aware that Mawson will have his fee settled eventually. The problem is one that has dogged the club for many years. It is that our pay structures do not match the size of the transfer fees that we have at our disposal. We can therefore agree the selling club's fee aspirations, but when we negotiate with players, our offer falls well below the market rate, or at least, their expectations of the market rate. The situation is now slightly different from the past, because our overall pay budget is controlled not by the club, but by the Financial Fair Play rules, which are in turn controlled by the amount of revenue that we can generate through the turnstiles. It is important that the club strategy reflects the best way to achieve on the field success given the restrictions imposed by the market. Attracting the best young talent to the club would appear to do this. Younger player's wage expectations should be lower and should therefore fall within our wage structure. However, now every club is looking for the best young talent in the hope of developing it, and the salary expectation amongst young players is rising as a result. Before we congratulate ourselves upon the efficacy of our strategy, we need to see how it all works on the field. The potential problem with the strategy is that if it starts to go wrong, young players tend to panic because they fail to recognise the way out of the problem. In such cases, older heads are needed to put the youngsters on the right path. Consequently, the strategy carries more risks than a more balanced approach. I hope that our supporters do not panic if things do not immediately gel. In my opinion, we cannot expect success in the first full season of a new policy.
This is the situation that clubs like Barnsley are in now; this is our reality and it is Sky that have done this to the game.
Tyke is right, Derby have spent £8 million already, i dont expect much from us if we get promoted, cant compete with that
I know it is, this FFP job as made it so what we'll be with our core fan base is a yo yo club between championship and league one, too strong for one not strong enough for other.
I think some people underestimate the effect of a good manager/coach, and team spirit, positivity among supporters etc. Yes, money is a key and driving factor in achieving success these days in football, but it's been that way for my entire 33 years on the planet. We were the same club in the summer of 1996 and things just came together. I'm not saying it's not become more difficult to pull that trick off these days, but I'm ****** if I'm accepting we're a yo-yo club between this and the division above when in my lifetime I've only seen us relegated three times and once was from the top flight. We're a second tier club on any factor you want to judge it upon. We will return there, and I for one won't be thinking "arrr, **** it, it's good to be here" if and when we do return, next summer. I'm a dreamer. And in those years supporting this little football club I've lived the dream on many occasions, been and seen things that supporters of many clubs haven't. It looks as though the massive Sheffield Wednesday and mighty Leeds United are in a position after years of nothingness to finally return to the minimal successes they had in the 90's that their fans talk about in an exaggerated manner. Their fanbase, always arrogant and expecting too much will be even more expectant now. If neither go up this season, just watch the fallout. And if they were to get it awfully wrong (foreign owners throwing dubiously gained wealth around) then it'll be even more tragic. Won't it? Careful what you wish for. I'm a Barnsley supporter. I don't want us paying silly wages, paying daft fees etc. I'd like cheaper tickets, more of us inside Oakwell and to feel valued more at times. But when you look at the likes of Stockport and Luton, Oldham in our division, Pompey even, we could have had it far worse in recent years. The club seem to have a strategy in place at long last. Everyone down there seems enthusiastic, confident. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all pans out, hoping for wins, goals and relative success. No point worrying about contracts and all that carry on, we've folk employed at the club to deal with that. We played a little bit better than average during that 6 game winning run or whatever it was by the end, we didn't lose many once LJ arrived. This division is this season there for us to win. Wouldn't that be lovely? A trophy. You Reds. *alternatively I'll whinge like **** about everything and should we be ***** I can say 'I knew this'd happen'.