Dennis Hutchings 75 ex soldier

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  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I would bet that if Trotsky posted on here he would get called Tory boy by the Kestrel.
     
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    And that’s why he’s being charged,because there is sufficient evidence to suggest he broke those rules. And don’t tell me it was too long ago, people get jailed for things they did in the 1970s like murder and child abuse and I don’t here many complaints about that.
     
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    Chuckle. Defecting from the Soviet Union was unforgivable treachery!
     
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    Are you just selectively reading what I post? If there is a case to answer then I'm on the side of justice. My major irritation is that there is nowhere near the same vigour to bring terrorists to justice as there is for ex soldiers. I'm fact it's completely the opposite with many being pardoned or released early. This is a disgraceful.
     
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    That's a bit of a one sided post if ever I have heard, a lot of theses so called terrorists on both sides were released as part of the good Friday agreement as I recall and what a great agreement that was. Thanks to John Major, Tony Blair, Mo Moland and the America guy just cannot remember his name. SInce then fighting for peace as over come and long may it continue.
     
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    havana red1 Well-Known Member

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    He'd have to google him first.....
     
  7. wak

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    Here's a critical article for you :-

    https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/d...cution-bias-against-security-forces-1-8035935

    Where the DPP states that since 2011 the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) has prosecuted seven republicans, three loyalists, and three soldiers for conflict-era crimes. Doesn't seem like Soldiers are being targeted from that.

    Governments who indulged in "self-amnesty" for the actions of their soldiers include those former dictatorships in Argentina and Chile and by Robert Mugabe’s government in Zimbabwe. Not a list we should be joining.

    Convicted terrorists on ALL sides were given early release as part of the GF Agreement - around 500. I read an interesting article from Patrick Kielty about the UDR/UVF men who murdered his father and were release as part of the GFA.

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...ho-murdered-patrick-kieltys-dad-36784130.html

    Seems he was willing to vote for the GFA even though he knew it would mean an early release for his father's murderers. Whether you agree with it or not, it has saved hundreds more lives from being lost since 1998.
     
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    It's only one sided in a particular context - the context of this post. The Good Friday agreement was a fantastic achievement, but it did give some concessions that were particularly unpalatable but if that was the price of peace then most people were reluctantly happy to concede to the concessions.

    My point is that the same concessions are not being applied equally. Due to administrative errors by the Blair government there were terrorists who were pardoned and have never faced any justice. There were terrorists released early for crimes that the republicans are demanding our soldiers are punished for.

    And don't believe that there is a long lasting peace in Ulster. There are dissident groups such as the real IRA whom are still active and still using terrorism to achieve their objective.
     
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    I've no issue issues with the GF agreement. I'm referring specifically to this.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...nded-Royal-pardons-as-part-of-peace-deal.html

    https://www.ft.com/content/b58331fe-9f8f-11e3-94f3-00144feab7de

    And for balance, this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/27/tony-blair-come-clean-secret-letters-ira-fugitives
     
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    This issue of amnesty for those "on the runs" - mainly in the Republic is tricky I agree - a few were escaped prisoners who'd been convicted and would probably have been released as part of the GFA, those who were "wanted" - what should have been done? Continued pursuit to try and convict them and then release them anyway?
    Also soldiers convicted of murder were pardoned as part of the GFA.

    https://pure.qub.ac.uk/portal/files...Document_for_the_Defence_Select_Committee.pdf

    Between 1969 and 1974, 170 people were killed by the British army. No one was prosecuted. 63% of those killed were unarmed. 12% (24 people) were armed and a further 14 were listed as being “possibly armed”.

    There were two soldiers in prison at the time of the passing of the Act who had been convicted of murder. It was originally considered that they would apply to have their sentences reviewed and their releases ordered by the Sentence Review Commission. However it appears that these soldiers were ultimately released using the Royal Prerogative of Mercy.
     
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    That is both ridiculous and unfounded....I do though apologise for using the word childishly.
    I don't expect you to know much about me, but I am not right wing and have never made posts that suggest that.
    Why you should suggest plain and simple facts are 'strawmen arguments' though, I'm not sure'....if you can point to cases of British soldiers being released alive I'd like to see them.
     
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    Genuine question, IF he acted outside the juristriction, why is it not being dealt with by Armed forces? Surely it would have been documented at time and cleared by those above. Or is just as simple as given the timeframe he is out of reach if Army juristriction?
     
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    6 years ago I meet and made friends withan Irish guy he was a member of the DUP a really nice guy and we went over to Ireland to meet up again one knight we went to a bonfire the biggest bonfire anyone as ever seen made of about 20,000 palets and on the top was the Republics flag they started the fire and then all of a sudden 5 may be more people came from nowhere with what I call Tommy guns and started shooting at the flag my wife wanted away so we made a quick exit so both sides must still have guns not just one side, but we still had a lovely time overall and have been back since, it would be a pity if the troubles started again as the Irish on both sides are lovely people.
     
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    3,600 lives lost: care about them all and seek justice and closure for those that have been denied this.
     
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    It was between 39 and 45
     
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    It's nothing to do with the original post sadbrewer..
    In fairness you weren't the 1st ontthread to use that infantile argument of us and them..
    I couldn't give a fk.. the fellow murdered an innocent lad .
     
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    What's "39 and 45" got to do with Trotsky's (towd tory boy Trot's) exile?
    Plastic socialist.
     
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    can't see your posts
     
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    havana red1 Well-Known Member

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    Sadly i can see yours.....
     
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