Difficult to defend Johnson at the moment

When Flitcroft was sacked I was of the opinion that Mickey Mellon should have been given until the end of the season. Wilson is a legend in my eyes so if it wasn't going to be Mellon getting the job then I was more than happy to see Wilson given another go, not because of '97 but because, as you point out, he had a very good CV spanning 20 years.

I was both disappointed and furious when we sacked him, I thought the reasons given were pathetic and I feel we have gone backwards since he was dismissed - just my opinion of course.

I do back LJ but I still feel that sacking Wilson was the wrong thing to do and I think that, in private, there may be a slight regret that they made this very poor error of judgement.

LJ may turn out to be a good manager, he might start to run things around, stop playing boring negative football and prove that the decision to appoint him was fantastic judgement by those running the club but based on what I've seen since he arrived we're a long way from that point.

 

you cant buy experience,thats why clarkie took spud with him,

 

In that case you would have to fire uncle Ben, but I doubt that will happen.

 

But is Ben the gaffer?

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I'm with you on that Jay. At some stage, despite the meet the fans evenings which generate a lovely feeling of warmth, it might dawn that those in charge aren't doing such a cracking job.


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Bad results = less bums on seats = sponsors going elsewhere = loss of revenue. Domino effect, and downward spiral as better players become unaffordable and the results get worse. The manager is given x amount of resources which the CEO deems adequate to produce results, if he fails to do this then who is to blame? Where does the buck stop? Who has accountability?

 

I bet the Leeds glitterati didn't see it that way!

 

If he hands over to the fans.. ill flounce off into the sunset. Will not be a fan of that.

 

That's a fine analogy if we're talking about manufacturing or a supermarket.

We're concerned with getting a group of human beings gelled together to play football consistently well over a period of time. Something we will never achieve if we carry on sacking managers around December/January each season , give a new manager the rest of the season to try and lift results and then the pre season to get his type of players in and replace those he doesn't want.

I'm not Johnson's biggest fan but that's based on him being in charge for 10 minutes - working with the background I detailed above. If we have the strength of character to give him 2 or 3 full seasons to get his stamp on the club then who knows. I do know that changing again this year and each year after that will get us into League 2 - and possibly lower.


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I agree that he should be given enough time and sacking him in December would be foolish. I just hope he can find a recipe that works, I do believe he has the makings of a decent team with the players he has to work with.

 

And in 2 sentences there you have outlined why the club made such a monumental **** up getting rid of Wilson. We were told that it was a long term building plan and yet in the very first bad patch we went through, in his first full season, he was binned off. We will never know for sure but I will always be of the opinion that the decision that the club made at that time was one of the worst that the club have ever made.

 

Agree 100%.

 

I think we've got some good players. Lots of them have played very few games for us.

 

What a constructive and thoroughly sensible post.

 

I think you could use those sentences for most managers in the last few years tbh.but time from the board , patience and support from the fans must come at some point to one of the managers we appoint or well forever be in transition and right now it has to be the present person in charge.

 

That was going to be my point

 

given the track record of cryne and his stallwarts,if johnson suffers a real,long bad patch,with a relegation battle looming he'll be sacked,sure as eggs is eggs and the merrygoround will continue..
the powers that be have continually shopped lower down the pyramid and thats where we've ended up,managers can only pi55 with the ***** they've got.

 

You cant sack the owner.

 

If and it's a big if, Johnson leaves then it's time to have a overall from top to bottom because we cannot carry on like this.
PC total respect for him but if the Lee Jay experiment fails we need a total overhaul.
And yes Im aware it's easier said than done.

 

Do you honestly believe football and science have nothing to do with each other? It was from that point onwards you completely lost me.

Anything with any form of physical activity has a hell of a lot to do with science. You might not want your physics professor managing a football team but you might want him studying the physical performance of the players.

Which brings me onto my second point. LJ will have nothing to do with the scientific analysis of his players. He won't understand the ins and outs of it (nor would he need to) but anyone who's reasonably switched on will know the importance of science and will have ideas about how to make the best use of the analysis performed by Nathan Winder.

Pretty much every single player we've brought in has commented on how impressed they've been with the presentations the the club prepare for them. Unsurprisingly the fans less so. The 'it must be **** if I can't understand it' or the 'pass and move is all you need' views are completely outdated. Every single professional football club uses sports science, yet football and science have nothing to do with each other?

We're not the only club that uses this. Chelsea, for instance, have an army of sports scientists. I applaud the club for moving with the times. I'll not ridicule them for attempting to use technology to better the performance of the players. It might not be working out on the pitch at the moment, but this has nothing to do with our failures.