Disgraceful stoppage

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  1. Whi

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    Groves was comfortably in front on my scorecard (I didn't actually have a scorecard, but you know what I mean), but Froch always grows stronger as the fight goes on, and I think he was primed to knock him out in that round, or in the next.

    I think Groves deserved a standing eight. I believe the ref stopped it prematurely.

    I also lost a bit of respect (only a bit) for Froch in his post fight interview. He talked a fair bit of ****. Whereas, my respect has grown for Groves.



    So all in all, I think that Froch would have won via TKO had it continued, but Groves was winning easily up until then on points.

    Great fight. I hope for a rematch.



    As an aside, Jim Watt is definitely gay for Groves. In fact, the Sky commentary team was so biased it was untrue. Thought Watt was going to orgasm every time Groves landed.
     
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    The ref should have let the fight go on and see what happened for a few more seconds. BUT....... Groves took 6 unanswered punches and staggeed head down gloves down into the ref. Groves missed his chance in the early rounds when he survived the barrage, which hrt but didnt finish.

    I doubled my bet on Froch winning in round 10 at round 7 because i could see he was getting stronger and Groves didnt hurt him any worse than round 1-3. Unfortunatly he won in round 9 but its how i expected it. Groves was fantastic, almsot identical when he won Vs De Gale to make his name.

    The worst thing for Groves now (if he is good enough) is a rematch. Froch wants one big pay day in his last 2-3 fights, the rematch would give him that win or lose (well he is 36). Groves can only lose. I would now move him to develop more for a world title and either fight Froch for his last fight or ignore the rematch completely

    by the way Froch has won many fights comig from 4 -5 round down.
     
  3. Whi

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    Yep.

    In this tiswas, a lot will forget to credit Froch for coming back like he did. A lot of so called 'world class' fighters would have been seen off by the third round, such was the impressive quality of Groves early on.
     
  4. Whi

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    Agree with all that.
     
  5. Loko the Tyke

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    I actually didn't fall out with Watt. When the crowd cheered it was easy to think Froch was landing, but he wasn't, and Watt was just calling it like that. Even in the flurries Froch had it was Groves coming out of the exchange having lanes the better shots, and continually caught him flush.

    As for the stoppage, I'm still just gob smacked. I wouldn't argue that Froch could have stopped him, either in that round or another round, but Groves was making him miss and even though the tide was looking like it might turn, it wasn't completely flipping over. Groves was punching from the waist as he was fatigued, but Groves was also fatigued which is why he was in trouble. He took harder punches in the earlier rounds and not buckled.

    Good fight, disappointing ending. Froch was a disgrace in the post fight interview, in my opinion, and I won't be swayed otherwise. He was also fighting dirty, and had the ref in his pocketthe entire fight.

    What about the scorecards? How did two judges have it 76-75? If Groves had survived the rest of the fight whilst losing each round. He would have still lost the fight. Outrageous.
     
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    Well me and Molly have just about calmed down. Awful stoppage. Quite possible that Froch would have gone on to stop him, but still. Having said that, Foster (at least he can argue boxer's safety) spared us from a more outrageous points decision for Froch. I had Groves 5 points up!!! Groves will go on to be a great champion.

    I don't think Froch won many fans with the post fight interview either. Arrogant sod!
     
  7. Loko the Tyke

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    It wasn't six unanswered punches. Groves hit Froch twice, which Froch then returned twice, and then the stoppage came.
     
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    I had Groves 8-1 up, Froch having won just one round. That would have been 8-2 possibly 8-3 (if Groves had gone down in that round).
     
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    I had Groves 8 - 2 up too, and one fight down

    Rounds count for nowt after a stoppage, otherwise we would have won at Milwall, Doncaster and Sheff Wed
     
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    With hindsight, Groves should have taken a knee.
     
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    Agree with the nation. Froch got beat fair and square tonight. I was talking to people who cheered Froch at the first bell, and jeered at the last. Froch knows he did not win that fight tonight. Disgraceful stoppage.


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    The performance isnt a surrogate for the result.

    I admired Groves before the fight. Respected him and have followed his carreer throughout. However he lost. He will go on to be a great, as has Froch,
     
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    That's utter ********. Froch did not get beat. He was behind on the scorecards, in a fight most people think was prematurely ended. He was in a strong position when the fight ended; would he have knocked out Groves if the referee hadn't intervened? Who knows. But to state Froch was beat fair and square is complete tosh.
     
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    Was a terrible stoppage.

    Froch was losing that fight.


    Fixed for a mpney spinning Sky ppv rematch in opinion.
     
  15. Loko the Tyke

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    There was no fix there, none at all.

    Don't think you'll see an immediate rematch. Froch will take a mandatory, and then have the Groves fight at the end of the year as a career farewell. Groves could go for another world title in the meantime.

    Froch is taking a long break now. Wouldn't expect him back before the summer of next year at the earliest
     
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    I dont know if this works, but there are more than 2 punches unanswered mate.
     
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    Sorry mate, I have to totally disagree. Froch gave it everything pre-fight. He talked about having too much of everything, and Groves having nothing. Froch said he would flatten him. Groves got slated for having disrespect. He put Froch on his ar$e in the first round. He then proceeded to completely outbox him, hit him with pretty much every jab, and won all but one round. Froch had no answer. The second Froch laid a punch - a body punch - the ref jumped in. I genuinely believe the boxing nation gave that fight to Groves tonight. To me, it smacks of money for a rematch.

    I fear that Froch may be remembered for two fights - schooled by Ward, and battered by Groves. Just my opinion.
     
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    Yeah it worked and I was wrong 7 maybe 8 unanswered. 6 punches def hit, none returned that landed. But one snapshot of a great fight. Groves did well and i think will be a great champ one day.
     
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    Then it is good that it is just your opinion then, because its ballox !!
    I take it you would have preferred one of them to end up like Magomed ? In a fecking coma !!!
     
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    I'd say three that landed then, two were power shots? Two hit the gloves, one was a bit powderpuff and one was a palm.

    I meant actually scoring punches to be fair, and I might have been one short.
     

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