Doesn't matter who the new head coach is

Many of the top continental teams only appoint coaches on a fixed term basis anyway. At least that way all parties know what the score is.

It only appears to be in this country that we hope managers will last longer than that.

 

While I don't disagree with your analysis, it kind of does matter in that if a manager has done well and he's poached at least that means we've had a good season. And if that good season leads to promotion then he might be inclined to stay, believing the squad he has at Barnsley is better than the one at the club who is courting him.

 

I think there was broad recognition at board level that they'd not done a good enough job on recruitment so that's why they stumped up for Long/Hammill/White etc. It was also pretty clearly the start of a big change in terms of 'data'. So you're right, but it's very nuanced.

 

I think you're hugely down playing the success of the last five managers that chose to leave us - Johnson, Heckinbottom, Struber, Ismael & Duff.

And also it's mainly because we're either **** or good. If we were just a low end Champ or mid table L1 we wouldn't have this problem. But we either, broadly, get to play offs, promoted or get relegated in the last ten years.

 

Johnson - Didn't he leave after an 8 game winning run, after a dreadful run before that?
Heckinbottom - Left after the successful team he built was broken up and replaced by lower league players not ready for the level they were expected to play at
Struber - Was increasingly frustrated at our inability to sign a striker after we sold Brown (and had still not replaced Moore!)
Ismael - Freak season, admittedly, he was eyeing up the exit as soon as he walked through the entrance
Duff - relegated team that failed to get promoted. He is a very good manager, and done a good job, but has he done a better job than say, Evett, who has taken Bolton from League 2 to the League 1 play offs? Cheltenham kept hold of Duff for 3 years.

There have been successful coaches at plenty other clubs that stay longer than they do here. Of course, they move on eventually, but not straight away after one good season.

There seems to be a culture at this club, that means we are constantly rebuilding, rather than building. Heckinbottom and Struber suffered it, Stendel suffered it more than anyone, and I suspect Duff felt he would suffer it as well. I hope the club prove me wrong, but my fear is we'll understand Duff's decision more when we see who replaces the players we lose.

 

I think that's very fair - so it becomes less about the people/managers lack of loyalty, it's systemic & something we need to look inwards at.

 

Exactly. Not fussed at Duff for deciding to leave. More concerned about why he chose to. I don't think it was purely that the opportunity to coach Swansea was too good to turn down, as it's not a massive leap up, as it would've been to a team just relegated from the Prem for example.

 

We were bottom of League One, I wanted him gone with good reason, the club stuck by him and he repaid that loyalty by leaving before the end of the season, luckily Hecky was better.

 

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To the tune of "Men of Harlech".

Ruaidhri Higgins' always roorin',
Can I have a stricker capable of scoorin',
And a goalie that doesn't let any moor in,
Khaled says " get f**ked".

 

No it doesn't matter but he wants to be in place now not after season starts. The club keep bragging they are prepared for all scenarios. NO THEY ARE NOT

 

The days of sitting around 10th in the second league seems a long way off these days

 

Khaled - Nar then Mr XXXXX, hear's a contract to be our next head coach, all you have to do is hang around until the current one naffs off for whatever reason.
Mr XXXXX - ok where do I sign.

 

It does show how times and attitudes change.
I'm sure we'd jump at the chance now, for a season like we had under Hendrie in the Championship. But at that time we all wanted and expected better, so it cost him his job.
Remember constantly finishing mid table there in the 80s (when it was Division Two) with teams like Leeds, Ipswich, Swindon, Oldham, and Grimsby etc!!.