Early Recruitment Drive

I'm hopeful to be honest. There will be plenty of players in the fourth tier good enough to get you out of the third tier and he seems like one of them from what I have heard. My long term hope for the club is for it to be a secure second tier club but of course that's not our immediate concern.

 

In terms of success rate, the season where I'd say we had the best outcomes was 1996/97. Danny and co. made a number of signings mixing experience and overseas with some good youngsters we had and I genuinely can't remember a failure - Wilko, Hendrie, Clint, Jovo, Thommo, Davis, Appleby etc etc

Therefore, I'm prepared to give Danny the time, certainly the next 3 weeks. I agree with the sentence in the OP that there is a long way to go in a short time but, if we can keep what we've got now, I'd rather we take our time and sign five guys who are going to make a difference at this level, rather than as Flicker did last year, quickly sign ten up who were no better than what we already had. It's arguable that the best signing last year was Ramage, who we waited for until deadline day.

 

I don't mind not signing all the squad as early as the end of June - we've never done it before so it's probably not going to happen now.

My biggest fear is if this pre-season pans out like the previous few and we buy 2-3 players and then a couple of deals allegedly fall through followed by the usual soundbite of "the loan window is still open and we are just waiting for clubs to finalise their playing squads". No more fcking loanees please...

 

Thas caught some fish theer Conan.

 

To be fair i have seen him play a fair few times for rangers and trust me he was poor

Hence the reason we let him go

 

To be fair players develop differently.

Maybe all he needed was a run of games & some confidence? Maybe he just wasn't ready for a big club like Rangers at that time?

Look at Chris Wood, I remember him been dragged off after 30 minutes for us he was that bad & a few months later he was scoring every other week

 

I agree fella just going on the facts for now. I hope he surprises me

 

Jay Rodriguez, Jonathan Walters, Chris Wood and various others no doubt

I'll ultimately judge a player at the time he plays for barnsley once he's settled. Some players improve, some players go downhill and some are pretty constant and don't change too much.

But over the 25-30 years i've watched barnsley, one thing is pretty certain, there isn't an obvious trend of where a player comes from and how well he does for barnsley.

You can find players either way to prove or disprove your argument.

 

As you've said elsewhere players develop at different rates. He certainly did well last season. To be fair I've no idea how he will do for us. We've had players who e scored shed loads for other teams who gave done nowt for us and players who've been crap for everybody else who've done well for us. It just seems daft to judge a player on where he came from rather than any ability he may or may not have.

Didn't he only start a handful of games for Rangers? And wasn't he just 20? Hard to judge on that, either way I would say.


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Fecking hell ya moaning Bas'tard, we don't play a game until next week, players contracts don't run out until 1st of July, the squads not due back in training until 4 days ago, we've got plenty of time

 

You can't make players sign a contract until they are ready. You can't make them choose Barnsley. The budget was in place early, players were identified early, contracts could be offered early, but we couldn't make them sign early because that bit was out of our hands, that is the part of the proceedings we don't control.

By having the budget in place early we could contact players we actually wanted rather than having to wait around to see what was left. But we couldn't make them come here. We got a couple that we wanted, we missed out on a couple who went elsewhere, a few more might still sign once they've made a decision or they might go to another club, we'll have to wait and see. What we did allowed us to talk to players, make them aware we wanted them. It put us in that group of clubs that were proactive in trying to the sign best players. Agents and players knew Barnsley FC were recruiting and they knew the kind of terms we were offering. We became an option. But we couldn't guarantee signing them because we're not rich enough to make players an offer they can't refuse.

If you can't understand that, if you just think we were lied to, with Ben and Danny rolling about in the season ticket money in the back office exclaiming "we're rich!" not even attempting to sign players, then you're not applying any thought to the situation. BFC wanted exactly the same as you: good players in early. They did their best to achieve that: got a budget in place, actively tried to recruit. But what they want and what you want isn't necessarily what will happen. We're a small-town club with relatively little to attract players above and beyond what other clubs have got. If the best players don't want to come, we can't force them. We may again have to go with what's left, we'll have to see, but at least this season we tried. I can't understand why anyone would complain at that. What would you have done differently?

 

Press gang players into signing for us. It's the way forward!

 

I work for a large organisation, you could say premier league. When we hire staff from lower league organisations, we invest in them to grow their experience, skills and contribution. We also hire knowing their capabilities and what we need to do to close any gaps. More importantly we welcome them into the organisation and make them welcome, at home and part of the team. We want customers to love them too.

Im sure Evertons customers, oops i mean fans were distraught over the years at Signing Seamus Coleman from Sligo in the irish leagues, John Stones, from the relegation level 2nd tier, Naismith from some Scottish team, Tim Howard a second string Goalie from the same league.........

 

All this 'get off your arse and get some players in Wilson' stuff is ridiculous. If anyone thinks that the club are doing anything other than working around the clock to get the best players in who suit us in terms of budget, ability, hunger and attitude, they I would suggest they are mistaken. Players and the clubs of those under contract hold the cards, and so these things take time, particularly in a World Cup year where the trickle-down effect means that the market is traditionally very slow. I'm sure that if we were to get players in early it would be a case of doing so just for the sake of it, and the same folk who are complaining now would do so about the quality of the panic buys we would have accrued.