Embarrassing Tactics at the end...

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  1. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    What does "slowing it down" mean? Not bothering to attack? Tossing around to induce a dull mentality that invites pressure when the other side have a makeshift goalie and ten men?

    Nothing "unfortunate" about what happened.
     
  2. Xer

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    Too true. points lost when they should have been nailed on.
     
  3. tobyornottoby

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    Well you were plain wrong. As it turned out. The decisions made in the last few minutes (apart from pulling Winnall off) were probably the difference between still having a chance of being in a division higher, or being stuck where we are.

    Stupid mentality. Get a big crowd in, stop playing when we're in front. Wonderful.
     
  4. Whi

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    I thought we were controlling the game at that point. Controlling all outcomes, because we had comfortable possession throughout. But Hammill ****** up and boom. So it's a risky strategy. But no riskier than continuing to throw men forward in an attempt to kill the game off. Hammill may well have still ****** up.


    I'm no coach, no tactical wizard, nor am I a footballer. Just a supporter. Nothing I say is any wiser than what you say. Or vice versa. So I won't call you crackers for offering a different opinion on what unfolded. I felt we were comfy and seeing it out okay. We didn't deserve to be ahead anyway, again, in my opinion. But you can concede at any point in football. Especially when you don't have the ball....
     
  5. Whi

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    As I've just said above, I've shared an opinion. Not sure it makes me crackers or plain wrong. Nobody knows what might have happened had we continued to throw bodies forward as though we still needed a goal. You can guess, just as I've guessed that we were right to maintain control and possession. Doesn't make me right. S'only an opinion. Just like you don't know that taking Winnall off didn't cause that sequence of events. It's all ifs and buts.

    Fact is, we drew. And I think it was a fair result. But I'm crackers and plain wrong. And happy to be.
     
  6. tobyornottoby

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    There was no need to "throw men forward".

    Just carry on playing positively.

    That's twice you've flagged up Hammill for their second goal - which I cannot remember his part in. How about remembering Winnall's numerous misses that would have put us out of sight by then?

    But he fcucked up and boom.
     
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    I thought we never looked more uncomfortable. We were playing 10 men of a relegated side with no keeper and we were too SCARED to attack? That to me doesn't say comfort
     
  8. Whi

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    You don't recall us having the ball for two or three minutes, in their half then? And Hammill with nobody on him, trying to showboat but knocking it out for a goal kick? Which resulted in giving them possession from which they then went up the other end and scored.

    Winnall had been subbed off. He wasn't great today, he's admitted as much himself. So what?

    Same for Hammill. He ****** up. So what?

    I'm pleased that we've fought for a playoff place. Good season in my book. Winning at Wembley was nice n all.

    I'll let others worry, fret and over-analyse. Which reminds me, Red Rain has just posted Minority Report.... :D
     
  9. Whi

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    I'm not interested tonight, Supertyke. Some of your posts today I can't get my head around, so best to leave it alone. Sorry.
     
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    Don't really care if you're interested or not to be honest. Have a good night
     
  11. Whi

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    Exactly.
     
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    Thought we were in control to be honest. 30 seconds to play... If chapman (who did fantastic for the 2nd goal to get round the back) didn't go tear arseing across the pitch to their centre half for no reason, then their left winger wouldn't have had ALL of the pitch to himself. But these things happen with young ens in the side. He'll learn from that, hopefully it doesn't cost us a play off spot.


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  13. tobyornottoby

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    Yeah - this time I can't understand what Red Rain's on about. I wish he'd throw a joke or two in there, y'know.

    Hammill was mega gash today, but I think his knocking it out was just another trick-gone-bad. Many of which there are.

    So what? So that's what we obsess upon. That's what.
     
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    But surely you could see, even without hindsight, that playing an already relegated team who had conceded 95 goals, playing with 10 men and an outfield player in goals, that the best way of seeing the game out was the barrage their goal with crosses and shots?

    Personally I think Hecky missed a huge trick there today, I'd have been demanding we peopered balls into the box and got in/around it. I also felt last week we should have tried to win the game, it was there for the taking and he took too long to make any subs but the result wasnt the end of the world, particularly with the results that followed.
     
  15. Whi

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    I enjoy Red Rain's posts. He doesn't try to belittle anyone, there's no agenda, he just gives his own assessment of home games. It's a shame he can't get to away days, where we've been much better this year, I'd love to read his thoughts on us away. Because for most of the season it's been our home performances that have warranted/drawn criticism.

    Hammill was the same today as he's been for a while now. Not direct enough for me today, spent too much time trying to bamboozle his full back which allowed their defence to regroup. He put the cross over from which we eventually scored, but aye, his form (and Winnall's) hasn't been great of late. Both were similar at Bramall Lane. I suppose we can suggest they are due a timely performance next week? Both were great at Wigan in the JPT.
     
  16. Whi

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    I can see the opposing viewpoint, and like I said before, it's the majority opinion. But I thought we were good for the win. Didn't anticipate the way the win was thrown away. Not sure our mindset would have made a difference there. **** happens. We got lucky against Posh and in other games. Swings and roundabouts.
     
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    I sort of agree

    but on the other hand if we'd gone gung-ho at the end and they'd broken away to equalise then most people on here would be saying we should have shut up shop and played out time. Sometimes things go wrong just when you least expect them and that's what happened today.

    For what it's worth, I thought Colchester just about deserved a point all things considered.

    We've just got to go and beat Wigan next week, which I think is a real possibility. Remember the game against Oxford a week after Marcelle fired us into the Prem?
     
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    Summed up perfectly
     
  19. Sloppy Tyke

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    no despite all the negative rubbish from us, colchester did NOT deserve a point today. they should have been beaten by the time it came to stoppage time, but we simply didnt do our job properly.
     

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