End of season review of playing staff

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  1. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

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    By "long term", I'm thinking the next two seasons. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to keep Styles for that long at least. Any longer than that would heavily depend on where BFC are as a club at that point. If he ends up being as good as I think he can be, then unless we're somehow in the Premier League by then, we're going to struggle to keep him.
     
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  2. Red

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    Look, you can stay in the same place. You can continue to believe that the board is pursuing the wrong policies. you can continue to believe that the coach is pursuing the wrong formation or that he does not have the quality that he needs. At the end of the day, your words will get you nowhere, because the owners do not agree, and their views are unlikely to be swayed by your arguments. You are conducting a long term argument with me, as though I have the power to influence them. I do not. I am merely someone who is expressing their opinion on a social media outlet. The fact is that I have moved on. I have accepted that things are as they are, and that however much time I spend debating things with you, it will not make them any different. I urge you to move on, to accept what you cannot change and move on. You have a perfect right as a customer to withdraw your support for the organisation, but that is your only right. I have stopped arguing about board policy because I have realised the futility of that argument. I am convincing no-one and I am converting no-one. I continue to hold those same views, but I can no longer see the point of restating that, over and over again. I have moved on.
     
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    One thing many of us have been guilty of - me more than most - is failing to remember our first team essentially comprises a group of young lads. At times, through no fault of their own, they’ve been the Under 14s playing in a mesters’ league. They’ve made schoolboy errors, but that’s because many of them are not much more than schoolboys.

    Any player takes between three and six months to settle into a new club properly. Add to that playing at a level or two above the standard where you’ve played before.

    Then many are playing in a new country. There’s a totally different environment. And even if you can speak a bit of the language, life must be difficult. Especially when the locals speak a language which is completely different to that which you were taught at school.

    Take the language thing on to the pitch. At times, we’ve had an Austrian goalkeeper and defenders from Guadeloupe, Senegal, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Austria, Spain oh, and England. Communication let me down, in the words of Spandau Ballet.

    So against that background, an even more remarkable achievement. And that’s before we talk about the difficulty of playing in a position you’re unfamiliar with.

    Well done. To quote the philosopher Patrik Schmidt: WARRIORS!!!!
     
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  4. Red

    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean condescending. Only, if I am being insulted, I need to know what I'm being called.
     
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    I agree with most of the assessments other than Woodrow who has just scored 15 goals in what this level is a poor overall team. The rest looks spot on to me
     
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    very condescending.
     
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    Switching the Diamond to 3-5-2 is always an option depending on how the games going...the fluid positioning of players mentioned here is brilliant but takes time and understanding...yes some players due to youth and inexperience may not pick it up straight away but as is correctly pointed out they are now getting that experience and growing into it...very exciting for next season ..so COYR
     
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    The length of your essays I don't think you'll ever be accused of being condensing
     
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    What was that?
     
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    I think I like to think of it as a debate rather than an argument! I'm quite aware that the owners will not be swayed by my arguments. However, given their statement, in particular: "There are a host of reasons why Barnsley Football Club took the fight for safety to the last day. Mistakes made internally and on the field; a bad bounce or run of luck. As a Club, we accept the challenges of 19/20 that were our own and we must subjectively assess our performance." it will be interesting to see to what extent, if any, the strategy changes. If it does - even just a little bit - and we balance the side a little better in terms of experience, I hope you'll be gracious enough to concede that those of us with a slightly different view to your own at least had a point!
     
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    I don't think anyone can accuse you of condensing!!
     
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    Once again, you have placed your own interpretation on what that statement means. You are asking me to commit something based upon your interpretation.

    I do not believe the owners or the board will change the basic tenets of the way that they do business, and I have accepted that as fact. If suddenly they throw those basic tenets out of the window and start spending like the rest of the Championship clubs have done, well their position on the Sheffield Wednesday situation has to be reversed, but I do not think that they are so two faced. I think that they are trying to do business honestly and within the club's means. But yes, If they spend £20m this summer, I will definitely have to review my position
     
  14. Red

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    Exactly. I felt that I had to clear that up. I can accept condescending, but condensing... never!
     
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    No, I haven't. My words were: "it will be interesting to see to what extent, if any, the strategy changes."

    And here comes the 'straw man' again! Can you point me to where I (or Sheriff) have suggested spending £20M?
     
  16. Red

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    What are you getting annoyed at. I thought we were debating.

    It is a number, and since you were unwilling to provide one, I have done so. If you have a better number, please tell me what it is.
     

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