Executing Kids a way of life in Iran

Sez ont' news that they're trying to build a 1 mile long sarnie.</p>

They're bleedin' barmy.
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No, what you did was...

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...what you always do. You brought the conversation immediately round to the crimes of the US government. You like to think you appear all worthy but the fact that your heart only ever bleeds for those whose plight you can blame on the UK or USA tells a different story. You're not the concerned &quot;decent human being&quot; you'd love us all to think you are, you're just a poser.</p>

 

RE: No, what you did was...

No. The point was actually about the fact that conservative societies use the death penalty, specifically on children. I think it's interesting that two socially and economically very different countries such as Iran and the US both share the view that in some cases it is acceptable to kill children. Any views on this?

There's plenty of criticism to go round; the issue with the US and UK is that they have a great amount of power and their actions echo round the planet.

Same old Windy, same old insults, and to top it off you say im off topic......funny man!

 

"What the world can do about them"?

The story is about the Iranians stopping the execution of kids, so that's a start.

Thought to self
Can stopping something be a start?!

 

Go on, I'll ask cause I'm intrigued

When have the US given the death penalty to a juvenile?

 

RE: Its unbelievable isnt it

I wonder if James Bulgers family would have welcomed the death penalty for the two 'boys' that murdered their toddler? I think so from what was said in the papers.
The conniving and planning that those two 'boys' did in the lead up to his death made me see them as more than boys, therefore had to answer to the crime as more than boys

 

They outlawed it in 2005

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/mar/02/usa.julianborger

So, before that I guess

 

Every country in the world will have done it at one time or another.

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Some still are. </p>

Like Iran.</p>

 

My views on this?

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Yeah, you're wrong again, dummy.</p>

 

Not in our life times

The Iranian government are a bunch of Neanderthal trolls, but that doesn't mean we can excuse the US who were killing kids up until 3 years ago.

 

His father certainly wouldn't

 

I see. I didn't realise you were demarcation point monitor.

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Feel free tofill me inon where the past ends and the present begins whenever you deem it convenient.</p>

 

ano

its like the chinese who drown their daughters so they can legally give birth again and home 4 a male

 

Anyway ne' mind that.

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What about this?</p>

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_LitV8yzBm0</p>

 

RE: His father certainly wouldn't

I'm sure that i remember all sorts of reports in the papers after their release. Ralph Bulger and his brother had been warned by police as they had said they would not settle until they had found the two muderers and got revenge for James. Then again could have been tabloids extending the truth.

 

Ah, so you're not bothered about what happened in the past

I guess the fact that Iran used to execute kids doesn't bother you as the story linked to in the initial post announces the fact that they've stopped doing it.

 

That's not what I'm saying and you know it.

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It's a bit disappointing that you resort to silly accusations of callousness the moment you find yourself on the back foot. Standard behaviour for Acky but I'd expect better of you Jay.</p>

And we're supposed to be talking about current events in Iran not past events in the USA. </p>

 

RE: They outlawed it in 2005

What's the difference executing someone aged 16 or 17, and executing someone older. Equally abhorrent.



p.s. Reading the article again suggests that the US (slightly incorrect anyway as capital punishment is at State level and not Federal level) issued the death penalty but didn't execute until the offender was over 18, almost certainly the case anyway given the length of time offenders remain on death row.

 

I'm not on the back foot at all Windy

And I'm not trying to win an argument because there's nothing there to win. I just pointed EastStander in the direction of an article that related to the USA executing juveniles. You ascertain that this thread is about Iran, where as I thought the major point was the execution of juveniles. And for some reason you seem to want to score points off me. Go ahead, but I'm at a total loss as to why.

 

You entered the discussion with an attempt to correct me...

...you then went on to accuseme of point-scoring so you might want to drop the innocent &quot;I'm not trying to win an argument&quot; pose Jay. </p>

You've had only one exchange with Eaststander. Your claim that your involvement extends you just pointing him in the direction of an article is disingenuous.</p>

Acky, as usual,wants this thread to just be about the US. You countered my observation that it is one of the MANY countries that USED TO execute children with, &quot;Not in our lifetimes.&quot; Don't you see that as a bit flimsy and argumentative? Maybe you'd like it all to be about the US as well, I don't know. You could help by pointing out just where this line in time is. Or shall we just assume it's always just the other side of anything the US has done?</p>