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  1. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

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    Think you'll find the answer here. FFP still operates.
    I reckon they want to work within the rules.

    Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.

    Initially introduced into League 2 in 2004/5 for guidance purposes, sanctions for breaching the SCMP thresholds were introduced during the 2011/12 season, with Swindon the first club to be sanctioned under the rules.

    The process is interactive with clubs providing the Football League with projections for the spending for the coming season. During the season the clubs provide regular updates on their Turnover and wage bill. Any club that is forecasting a wage spend within 5% of the figure will be scrutinised more closely. Where a club is on course to exceed the limits, the Football League will apply a Transfer Embargo. Crucially, a club doesn't have to overspend to incur the embargo, it only needs to shown to be heading for an overspend. This interactive approach enables clubs to increase their wage bill if their circumstances improve - a successful cup run will generate increased income and the Football League may be able to sanction additional wage spend. Because SCMP doesn't rely on the retrospective scrutiny of club accounts, it is also extremely effective at stopping overspend before the spending actually occurs (something that has been a problem for the Championship's version of FFP).

    The Football League's website's explanation of the rules doesn't go into a great deal of detail about how they operate. However they have responded to enquiries and confirmed a number of areas that help us to better understand the rules.

    Relegated clubs

    The rules apply to all clubs and there is no moratorium for clubs relegated from the Championship. However, Transitional Arrangements are in place whereby clubs are allowed to exclude the wage costs of all players that the club signed pre September of the relegation season, if they were signed on contracts in excess of 3 seasons.

    Turnover definition

    Under the SCMP rules, the definition of 'Turnover' is particularly important as Turnover is used to determine the maximum wage-spend. Within a traditional accounting perspective, there are usually only three elements of turnover:



    • Match-day Income
    • Commercial Income (such as sponsorship)
    • TV revenue (and any 'merit payments' based on league position)


    However the Football League use a is broader definition of Turnover. Crucially, the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing club debts. up club debts. In League 1 and League 2, a wealthy owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in other divisions. Manchester City and Leicester for example seem set for punishment for their excessive losses (from UEFA and the Championship respectively) despite the fact that the owners have injected hard cash into the club to finance the spending.

    Profit on player sales

    Any profit made on player sales is included withinTurnover on a cash basis when the instalments are received.

    Player Wages and deductions

    Under SCMP, 'Wages' relates to player wages only (director remuneration and general club staff wages are not included in the SCMP calculation). Player wages included in the SCMP calculation relate to all contract players (full contract, non-contract, multiplicity etc.) and loan players. Wage costs for players loaned out to other clubs are deducted for the period of the loan. Wage costs for Youth players on a professional contract are also excluded (i.e. players that have been in the club’s Youth Development scheme and have been given a pro contract); they must be 20 years of age or under at the start of the season to be discounted from the SCMP calculation.

    Direct Costs incurred within Turnover

    Within Turnover, clubs can include such things as Hospitality/Banqueting income (whether it is match day or non-match day income). The direct costs have to be deducted to reach a figure that is submitted on the SCMP return. For Hospitality/Banqueting for example, the Direct costs are all costs directly attributable to put on a hospitality/banqueting event. This would include food & beverage, direct staff and cleaning costs such as laundry etc.
     
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    Archerfield Well-Known Member

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    Contributions from owners are added to turnover so the question I posed is not addressed.
     
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    Can I promise to reveal my excuse at a later date, teasing Bobby and Martin that they'll love my excuse and it'll be well worth the wait?
     
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    I'll stand corrected. But the transition to league 1 was covered by directors contributions and the issue of new shares. I certainly dont think they will have an endless pot of their own money they'll dip in to, as they want us to be self sufficient. Which has always been stated. I suppose it's wait and see if the question is asked again. The biggest issue is the ownership of the ground. Of which only James is a shareholder. Alongside the council. Their asset is the club only.
     
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    If anyone is attending tonight, could they please ask the board whether they have any update regarding the EFL charges.
     
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    The rights issue raising £6.6m in total was an absolute necessity as the club was running out of cash. Remember £3m of this was to settle the deferred purchase with the Cryne family.

    There are specific rules in place which allow for the transition from Championship to league one which are covered in your post.

    The current owners efforts to make the club self-sustainable have resulted in the club’s biggest annual losses and destruction of the balance sheet.

    I’m sure they want the best for their investment but to date their track record has been pretty poor.
     
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    Crap excuse. Call yourself a fan :D.
     
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    Short term pain for long term gain? We can only hope.
     
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    It's the fans that are continually taking one for the team though.
     
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    I’d rather watch a scabby pig … hang on a minute
     
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    I think there will be plenty of pork gyros available tonight.
     
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    The one and only time I went it was fine, I don't think you need worry about that.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    They're fantastic questions to ask.
     
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    I doubt it. I don’t know why people are so impatient about it honestly.

    He never said when it was coming, just that it would be during this season. I’d have been shocked if it happened before Christmas after the way he made the initial comment
     
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    Who gave thee rule book Ffs and who’s read it to you ? You retired lot
     
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    Google is king
     
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    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

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    Like to keep on top of things Jud. Mindst thi I could av done same at work and got paid for it. :)
     
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    Currently moored up in Swansea marina.
     
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