FAO People who drive in the middle lane of the motorway and never move...

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  1. Owe

    Owen Blackadder New Member

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    Nobody was badly hurt but there was one hell of a smell

    of burning rubber as he hit the anchors when he realised. He was sat there with his front end smashed in and bonnet flipped up afterwards, the muppet.
     
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    2nd Lane should be for lorries etc to overtake slower ones

    on 2-lane motorways they should not be allowed to overtake.
     
    Brush, Oct 14, 2009
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  3. Owe

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    The ones that flash you to move over when

    you're in the same queue of traffic as they are! Yes sir, I'll move over so you canget your BMW a little bit further on.
     
    Owen Blackadder, Oct 14, 2009
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  4. Brush

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    Anyone remember the 70s fuel crisis?

    The Motorway speed limit was reduced to 55mph and journey time were almost unversally reduced. Also, the variable speed limits on the M42 have dramatically reduced journey time and accident rates. Absolute proof beyond any doubt that there is a real argument for the speed limit to be reduced to 60 or (probably a better idea) kept at 70 and RIGIDLY ENFORCED.
     
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    I had one of those..

    3 lanes going slow, i'm in the end lane going about 40 mph with two cars length of gap in front of me, he's up my a*se, face angry (he was a lane weaver) god knows where he was expecting me to go all the lanes were going the same speed, he tried to undercut me so l sped up blocking him, cue his anger and he gave me the finger and a load of abuse but he weren't expecting me to retaliate. He was a jumped up geek in a BMW when he got round me l followed him in the same lane until the traffic came to a complete stand still and we pulled off the slip road at Elland rd, i moved into the lane at the side wound the window down and lobbed my half full Mcdonalds Coffee all over his side window with the words "get out of the car i'll rip yer flipping head off giving me the rods" other motorists watched on as he wheel spun off nearly mounting the kerb. Oh aye they're safe in their cars giving you the rods.

    I do not condone road rage.
     
    Gordon Owen, Oct 14, 2009
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  6. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Thats wrong on just so many levels I dont know where to start

    1. The speed limit on motorways was not reduced it stayed at 70 - dual carriageways 60mph and national speed limit 50mph

    I can and used to frequently drive the 210 miles from Farnham to Wombwell legally in around 3.15 hours - all bar 3 miles is motorway or dual carriageway ( currentrly it takes over 3.5 hours due to long 50mph stretches on the M3 M25 and M1) if the limit was 50mph all the way then it would have to be over 4.15 hours) so a good hour longer.

    2. rigid enforcement of speed limits increases accident rates from the govenments own but not highighted survey of motorway roadworks

    roadworks with 50 mph limit and no speed control have better accident rates than those with gatso's etc
    and much better than the ones with the average speed cameras

    Its generally recognised that the biggest cause of accidents is lack of concentration distraction etc. Forcing people to concentrate on their speedometer and drive at artificially low speeds causes far more accidents than any that are caused by the minority of excessive speeders

    The only reason that there is such a big push on speed is its because its easy to measure and generates revenue.

    You do make a valid point on variable limits though - when there is congestion smoothing out the traffic with a variable limit reduces the bunching reduces rear end collisions and improves journey times - there is an excellent argument for variable speed limits on motorways - you could easily make it 80mph or even higher at quiet times and 50 when its busy
     
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    The 50mph limits are doing my 'ead in at the mo. The average cameras do keep people honest, but why do I always end up behind some prat doing 35/40??</p>

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    i'll hog the middle lane all i want

    because all that happens is a biddy doing 50mph will appear within 10 seconds of going into the left lane, or a lorry for that matter.

    need sorting our motorways, surely only in our country can we cause jams on clear roads...
     
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    Agree Tel, agreed...

    bunch of (wnkr) (wnkr) (wnkr)
     
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    You obviously have a better memory than me

    However, journey times and accident rates are not the only things we should be worrying about. CO2 emissions (and global warming) may not be such a big problem for our generation, but our kids are going to have to deal with our irresponiblity. Driving faster uses more fuel, driving fast up behind other vehicles and braking wastes even more fuel - both of which mean a huge unnecessary increase in CO2 emissions. I drive a 2.0l Diesel X-Type Jag which gives a very respectable 45pmg, a very important feature of the car being the cruise control. All cars should have them so that drivers wouldn't be watching the speedo etc.

    Incidentally the difference between driving at 70 and 80 for your 210 mile yourney is about 20 minutes - is it really worth all that stress for 20 minutes?

    Anyway, more importantly, here's to 3 points on saturday against the Pikeys.
     
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    I remember driving on the M42 a year or so ago and the overhead display was imposing a 50mph limit. It then suddenly changed to 40mph, yards before I was about to pass a camera and I didn't have enough time to react to it. Was convinced for several weeks that I'd get a ticket but luckily didn't. The point is, they actually distract you and could be dangerous. I now spend more time watching them than what I should be.
     
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    RE: You obviously have a better memory than me

    Regarding the C02 emmisions and journey times - you have a point on the CO2

    I have a 2.7 Diesel Pug 407 coupe that manages about 40mpg on the drive to Barnsley - it has both a cruise control and a speed limiter
    both invaluable in the 50mph limits depending on the traffic volumes

    in fact I have got old now and given up trying to spot the speed cameras etc and just set my cruise control to give me 70mph - which with my Need to set it to 72mph to get a true 70) and can live with the extra 20 minutes - though if the speed limit was 80 I'd drive a bit faster

    Done regular drives to the Alpes through france at exactly 130kph (81mph) and its no more dangerous in my opinion costs me around 3 mpg though.

    By the way do you really get 45 mpg or is that just what the trip computer tells you my trip computer is about 10% optimistic ie last time I did a return trip to watch the reds I had an indicated 44.6mpg but calculating fuel against distance was really 40.2 ( I've been checking it for a while and it does seem to be consistently 10% high)
     
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    Don't get me started on selfish ******* on motorways

    Why do people insist in getting in the outside lane to do 65mph, then don't pull into the middle or inside lane.

    Why do people who you have overtaken because they are moving so slow insist on re overtaking you and then cutting straight back in front of you and slow down to 65mph.

    Why do people think its a good idea to weave in and out of traffic.

    Why do people get in the middle lane on that narrow section near Derby where it's 50mph to do 30mph.
     
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    It is an offence to stay in the middle lane if the inside lane is clear

    Simple fact. Doesn't matter what speed you are doing. If others want to break the law by speeding it is up to them. I always undertake them and then pull out and slow down. That way I can break about four laws in one manouvre.
     
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    The one that gets me is...

    People who are happily doing 47mph in the average speed zones suddenly slam on the brakes and slow down to 30 to go past the camera

    I dont understand it with Gatso's but with Average speed cameras it really doesnt help at all
     
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    It winds me up. It should be made illegal. As should under-taking. My thinking is that the motorway has one driving lane (the left one) and two over-taking lanes (to account for varied speeds). If you can get back to the left lane safely then you should do it.
     
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    FAO People who sit in the overtaking lanes on the motorway

    The little orange light twinkling away on the right hand side of my car means I am coming out into the over taking lane.

    It is not a warning to you to speed up and block me in so I can't "push in in front" of you.

    Once it's blinked seven times you've had enough warning.

    I'm coming out whether you're in a BMW or not.
     
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    A few years ago three drivers in identical cars set off at the same time from Leeds to London via the M1.
    Driver 1 was instructed to take as much risk as he could, Driver 2 was told to drive 'normally', Driver 3 told to drive steadily and carefully.
    The difference in their arrival time was 6 minutes, Driver 1 being first, driver 2 being second, and Driver 3 last, 6 minutes behind driver 1.
     
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    If someone driving steady was only 6 mins behind , then the 1st driver was ****. nt
     
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    RE: If someone driving steady was only 6 mins behind , then the 1st driver was ****. nt

    I used to tear-arse around as a young 'un, until I realised that all the people I'd took great risks to overtake were catching me up at traffic lights. Those who dart around the motorway like Brendan O' Connell often don't make the best decisions and are held up more than the steadier Stuart Gray type of driver.
     
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