Fartage is not going to like this

More narcissistic than Trump?

 

You know the idiots and racists who brought shame to the country last summer, the scumbags rioting up and down the country?

Remember them? The sort of ‘people’ who surrounded hotels, set fires, attacked police officers. I was at work at the time, paying my tax and NI etc. Not destroying things, attacking mosques, costing fellow taxpayers money. I certainly wasn’t endangering the lives of people I’ve never met. I imagine all on the BBS would agree that it was a shameful few days, no?

Which party do we think these s*** stains are following?

 

Sorry, but this Govt have been in around 11 months so how on earth can they throw anywhere near as much carnage as the 14 years previous? As for Narcissism, have you forgot about Boris and his followers/apologists?

 

I was at work too.

 

Just depends how far left you want to lean...

I have nothing against immigration, for me it's least of our issues.

I don't want anything to do with a party in the world economic forum.

 

Every country in the UN agrees to takes asylum seekers. So even Australia don't do it all on a points system, they have to take in refugees too. What we need to do is to sort out processing asylum claims more efficiently. Why would people risk a very dangerous ocean crossing if they could be properly processed beforehand? Bear in mind too, most of those who seek asylum will be the more wealthy, hence more educated on the whole because they can afford to get out. Which again will benefit the UK as they will have a wider range of possible jobs they could do when allowed to work.
What I would like Labour to do is to get a grip on those families stuck in the benefits trap, like Blair tried to do with surestart. Get them help with education/skills/training and help their children witb school so they can aspire to more and their kids see that there can be much more to life thsn living off benefits.

 

On thursday, I was out cycling and managed to break my chain so I was sat outside a pub waiting for her indoors to bring my tools and a spare chain. Anyway I got talking to a bloke (early 40s ish) who said he'd voted Reform (I then got into a discussion with the Reform candidate who was also in the pub). We got talking about climate change and he said he had an electric car (company car, no choice) and he hated it and was against nett zero, then we got onto immigration and he hated it complaining about parts of Burton being "overrun" yet he lived in the village of Barton under Needwood, a completely white middle class Tory heartland. I really didn't know what to say to him, his prejudice was so ingrained, I could imagine him petrol bombing an asylum seeker's hotel last August..

 

I'm not sure what you mean by tory/labour circus.
It implies that the parties take turns in ballsing things up when in fact, As far as I know (and my maths can be poor) since 1900 - that's 125 years, there has only been 6 labour governments.

 

I doubt many voters were alive in 1900 but in recent times since 1997 we've had a 13 year of labour spell and the 14 year Tories until starmer took over. It's got progressively worse for the working people were taxed to death, prisons over populated, crime up the current lot have done as many U turns and broken promises as the last lot and that's why reform are appealing to the working class.

 

Also former gold Olympic boxer Luke Campbell will be a mayor for hull representing reform uk after been winning by almost 11k votes ahead of the lib dems. In hull which is usually a Labour area.

 

I’m quite surprised nobody has admitted voting Reform yet.

More denigration of other parties but nobody openly stating they have or will vote Reform.

Why is that? I mean if they are so amazing with such amazing policies, you’d think voters would be falling over themselves admitting their fealty.

But nothing. Why is that? Most odd.

 

They'll blame the fearsome "pile on"

 

Isn’t that the guy whose election pledge was ‘I won’t raise any taxes. No council tax levy. No business rates levy. No new taxes.’ Even though a mayor has no authority over taxes? Who didn’t attend a single hustings?

 

"I think you all better really be seeking alternative careers," [Nigel Farage] warned council staff who were "working on climate change initiatives, or Diversity, Equality and Inclusion" or opting to work from home.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjl4k8jyxeo

 

Straight out of the Musk book of ******

 

I think it’s this that makes me despair most.

We’re killing our planet as we know it. Wildlife diminishing at an increasing rate, our water, air and soil polluted ever more, our climate getting more inhospitable with increasing wildfires and floods… yet we have blatant cheerleading by political chancers to undertake actions to speed up the factors that worsen these conditions and impact on our lives and our very futures.

We’re not doing enough as it is. God forbid if more nations pivot to crooks who literally unpick our ever reducing chances of keeping our planet habitable.

 

I don’t think they need to confirm the way they voted, just read this thread from start to finish to potentially identify those that voted for Deform

 

I work from home and I am far more productive than some of my colleagues that work in the office. The easy option is to have a go at those working from home, but what they seem to forget is that they are paying for their own heating, electric and also not claiming travel costs.. This also means that those companies can downsize their office space reducing their output, what f@cking idiot would have a go at those working from home, oh, hold on

 

Nothing wrong with admitting who you support. I support the greens now. I used to support Labour by default but they are not looking after the weak and vulnerable any more so I've switched. No doubt Im letting Reform in. I couldn't give a toss. Labour are a disgrace and deserve to be pummelled.
So yes, youre right, if people want to say who they vote for that's fine as long as they're respected and not insulted.
I think some reform voters don't own up to voting reform as they simply get insulted and/or called racist. While there spear to be many racists in Reform I dont subscribe to the idea that they are all racists. Its a knee-jerk easy insult which does nothing to engage Reform voters. I dont think insulting people is a good way of changing their minds or making them reconsider their views.