Football fan behaviour

Anyone who’s been in a Barnsley away end will have seen blokes behave like this. It is what it is, daft lads been daft boozed and / or coked up. More than likely wouldn’t say anything to anyone face to face. I’m not defending it by the way just been honest about it.

 

When exactly have you seen anyone in government display behaviour like that ?

 

On an almost daily basis

 

Prime minister's questions isn't far off

 

Too much sugar, too much pocket money spent on violent computer games an too much telly, well thats what the wife sez.

 

Examples please? This might be the biggest load of **** I've ever read on here.

 

Yeah all the things they get these days that past generations didn't - free tuition, cheap housing, final salary pensions etc.

Oh wait.

 

Examples?

The future for my lad, not long turned sixteen, looks
no brighter, maybe worse, than it did for me.

 

We worship at the feet of the God of consumerism and moral relativism. Maybe to hark back to some golden age of stable families, jobs for life, a moral code, is to gloss over many problems it masked, but no one can tell me that there have not been terrible consequences to the atomisation of society and the so-called freeing up from the idea of a common set of values to one where all opinions, feelings, behaviors can be validated as "speaking my truth" or whatever empty platitudes this kind of wrong thinking hides behind.

 

Having watched football since the 70s, I think things are much better now. No comparison at all really, the violence I saw throughout the 70s and 80s and even as late as the Birmingham play-off semi final I haven't seen for years. The only example I can think of is Millwall in the play-off final. It used to be every week.

I still see a lot of posturing, a bit like in the clip posted by the OP, but not usually so blatant. It's not pleasant but nothing like the actual violence from my formative years watching football.

IMHO, a good way to cut down on it in the stands would be if the players stopped doing it. Both Phillips and McAtee have, in recent weeks after scoring, ignored our supporters and taunted the opposition fans. We went on to lose both matches and the pair of them looked like idiots.

 

It's nothing new, bad behaviour is part of the human condition and always has been. All the criminal offences we see and read about today were common in days gone by. I do a lot of research using the old newspaper archives and violence around football was a regular occurence even in Victorian times...not only football though, street violence, robbery etc happened in the past...we've all seen Peaky Blinders, but they weren't a one off, similar gangs operated all over the country in the 1890-1930 period, South Yorks wasn't immune, although the Sheffield gang wars are well known they weren't unique, many gangs ran protection rackets, robbed visitors, committed thefts, fought with each other, sometimes killed each other...occasionally shot Police Officers and intimidated Magistrates. The tipping point seems to have been the 1920's when the Police employed a large number of hard WW1 ex soldier's and with the blessing of the state took the violence to the gangs.

 

It was different and certainly more contained but the actual ‘hooligans’ were worse in terms of violence in the 70’s & 80’s.

 

Literally just put something similar about 70’s&80’s.
In fairness in my experience the trouble was more contained in the sense of it only happened if you wanted it or looked for it.
Late 80’s and certainly early 90’s are when you started to see them with the gesturing and hitting more innocent people.