Foreign Imports or Local Stock?

Not exactly a fair summary of the game Big Lil. Williams was being played in a position that he was clearly clueless about, this was the managers fault, not the players. Can't remember the second goal but the one that Kay was to blame for was just a slip wasnt it? I thought he had a great game apart from that.
If I remember rightly, it was the likes of mccann, devaney, kyel reid, nardiello, knight, richards and hayes that were shocking that day under the guidance of a certain manager who's performance was totally unacceptable on the day.

 

Just want the players of a quality high enough to secure us in this division

...without the trauma of a relegation dog fight every season. Don't care where they come from, and let's face it, when the right players come along they are just as likely to strike up that love affair with the fans. Glavin was from Scotland, Hignett was from Merseyside... what does it matter? When it clicks it really doesn't matter where they come from. To limit yourself to the local leagues is just silly - we have enough limits on us in terms of our finances, the manager should feel free to go as far a field as he needs to get the talent we can afford. And likewise, if the local lads aren't coming through and making the grade, they have to go elsewhere. Want a side in the old fourth division made up of local lads? I'd rather have a mixed side playing in the Championship. It's great to keep a couple of local lads in the team - but if they aren't good enough, too bad. And let's face it, Kay wasn't good enough last year and if the rumours are true, he blew it for himself anyway.</p>

 

Correct

But give me a high standard of professionalism anyday and spare me the romantic idealology that local lads 'care' more than the anyone else .

 

as mention earlier, the lines between 'being committed to the cause' seemed to keep being blurred and confused with ' players who have perhaps made more than their fair share of critical errors in a game'.

 

I disagree...

...getting red carded is never a good thing, doesn't matter how you spin it. And besides, to suggest that only a local lad can be truly committed is silly - sure there are great examples of local lads showing blood and guts committment (Steven Gerrard at Liverpool), but it isn't the golden rule. There are plenty of local lads who never made the grade because they lacked commitment, and there are plenty of hard nosed winners who just couldn't stand losing who didn't play for their local favourite team. Did anyone doubt Neil Redfearn's commitment? Or wasn't that genuine?

 

Commitment

does not keep clean sheets and win games.

I would love a complete side of born and bred Barnsley players as would everybody connected with the club but its a long way off and it should not be the deciding factor on wether a player should be kept by the club if the players lack the necessary qualities fall short of the level of football at which we ply our trade.

 

RE: Just want the players of a quality high enough to secure us in this division

'To limit yourself to the local leagues is just silly ' -.....................i
............s not the argument.

The disucssion is overseas v homegrown lads. UK based players on the other hand don't have the language barriers (unless they are Geordies!) , cultural differences, possible lack of appreciation of what the English game is all about etc etc and thus less of a risk than foreigners - but conversely more expensive.......................and that to me is the crux of all this. I am worried that Davey - encouraged by the successes of Stan and to a lesser extent Pete - will bring in too many imports who when the going gets tough they won't have the stomach for the fight....................Stan hardly looked dynamic in those last few games either but I'm prepared to accept he may have been a little jaded (think he had only a few weeks break in between the Hungarian Season and playing for BFC?)

'I'd rather have a mixed side playing in the Championship' -

............is more a kin to what I'm thinking with the likes of Pete n Stan accompanied by Austin and Kay (OK, too late know I know), with some Uk, non local based payers such as Dicso and Howard.

 

I had a brilliant answer all written out

But then I lost connection with the site !!! (doh)
And now I've forgotten what it was I said , so here's a photo of Kate Garraway :-
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I think I've fallen into that trap , mate

So here's a photo of Carmen Electra :-
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LOCAL IF POSSIBLE...

 

I don't get this "local boys who know what the club is about and would fight for the cause", maybe that used to be the case 30 years ago, but how many players are there these days that are loyal to "their" club, they are in it for a living and will, quite naturally, move on to further their career and give themselves a better life, and I've no problem with that, for a prime example look at Wayne Rooney, an Evertonian, playing for his boyhood heroes in the top division, but the lure of being in a more successful side proved too much both, no doubt, for a higher salary and a greater chance of winning honours. Did Robbie Fowler give less for Liverpool because he was a fan of their city rivals?

Back to BFC - we've had home grown players and I've seen ones that give 100% and some that appear to go through the motions, the same with players from other parts of the country and the same with foreign players. OK, the likes of Ferenczi and Rajczi may not know the culture of Barnsley or England, but they are professional footballers and, in some ways, hungrier perhaps to make their mark and create a better life for themselves and their families, it may well be that they see a club like BFC as a stepping stone to a "bigger" club but to do that they have to perform and produce the goods for us, so therefore why are they less likely to fight for the cause. I think you do them a great disservice to suggest otherwise unless, and until, you see evidence of that on the field.
I want a team of players that have the desire to succeed whilst they are with us and the skills to improve the team and move us forward, in an ideal world they may be local lads, but I don't really care where they are from and I certainly see no reason why a foreign player would be any less committed to his teammates than a local lad.
You may well feel that local lads would be more committed to the cause....but they may not have the ability, you can only go so far with commitment.
I don't work away from Barnsley so not local to the company I'm employed by - does that mean I am less committed to how well my company does and my work for them?

 

Kay did a good job of trying to get us relegated?

You are a complete ming-mong of the highest deacon order.
Your football knowledge is equal to that of Barry Frys bum smeg.

Keep trying though.
You'll get something right one day.

Monkeys with typewriters & all that.