Formula 1

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  1. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, Max also got new tyres before the shootout. May as well have given him a new car and engine the lot.
     
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    With the team on 7 in completely worn out boots with no soles left on them and the other team in brand new fresh Adidas Predators
     
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    If the rules had been followed, all the cars would unlap themselves, then the safety car would go in at the end of the NEXT lap, meaning the race would be over.
     
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    Thanks that makes sense why the partial unlapping is an issue.
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly it, they'd have ran out of time because the race director gave the signal for them to do it so late. Needed to be about 3 seconds earlier.

    Basically all cars WERE allowed to overtake but because of the late call only about 5 managed to do it before they had to call in the safety car for the last lap
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Which they pretty much always do right? It's just not often (never?) That they panic and restart with only half of them moved.
     
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    If there’s any in-race lobbying from teams next year, I won’t be watching.

    At this rate I’ll be at Meadowhall every weekend. What a **** year for sport.
     
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    The SC should not have come in until the lap AFTER the last car has passed. The last lap should not have been raced.

    Even Massi has basically admitted he made the call to get a last "racing" lap on the radio conversation with Toto Wolff. That wasn't his call to make. His job is to apply the rules, not make them up...
     
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    Exactly they were desperate just to get a lap in with those 2 racing.

    can’t blame red bull and can’t blame the fact they had stopped for tyres / that’s the race- but the desperate decision by the F1 on moving just enough cars and then bringing the safety car in just to get a grandstand finish was awful.
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    I know. I said that. He should have made the call to let the lapped cars pass a lot earlier.

    One other thing is they really need to speed up how quickly they clear cars as they seem to be much slower these days, often taking two or 3 laps before they even decide what to do
     
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    Sorry, that sounded like I was trying to correct you. I was just trying to emphasize the point. That's on me, so accept my apologies.
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    No problem at all good sir. As much as I do feel for Lewis Hamilton here I think that it could be a good thing for the sport as they're going to have to make some big changes to the race day governance
     
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    Bottom line is Masi broke the rules to the extent that the race should have, by FIA rules, finished under the safety car. LH would be WDC. Even worse Masi has admitted to Toto Wolff he changed the rules (beyond his pay grade') to engineer a finish effectively guaranteeing MV the title. Could see this getting very messy. MV could find himself stripped of the title if Merc so decided to challenge in court. FIA/Masi would not have e legal argument to counter it. I doubt that will happen though.
     
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    Paddy are always great at PR
     
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    They could void the result. o_O
     
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    When did Masi admit that he changed the rules to engineer a finish? They haven't said that on sky
     
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    In football terms: A team is 3-0 up and the ref restarts the game at 1-1 with 5 minutes to go after the team that were losing has just made 3 substitutes.
     
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    You don’t void the result after an award ceremony. Mercedes will probably get some financial recompense for next season, at best.
     
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    Manufactured sport
     
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    Mercedes would argue it would have taken longer to move all cars around and the race would have finished on yellow flags behind the pace car, giving Lewis the win.
     
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