free sky sports?

This. Without sky we wouldnt get to see any games other than at t'well. apart from 2 minute MOTD highlights

 

There is still plenty of time for the scouse implosion to happen. The gods of football had me worried last season because they left it very late to sort it out so I'm hoping that their title challenge ends much earlier this season.

 

I'd be quite happy with match of the day, the odd televised Sunday game and an FA cup game. Football should be at 15:00 on a Saturday just like it used to be. We managed perfectly well before 1991 although listening to some I often wonder how the world managed to carry on turning in pre sky days.

 

Er actually yes they have

 

I hope you know, you're in a minority there of about a million to 1. Sky has brought the game we love to a very wide range of people, and this can only be a good thing. The inflation of player wages is one thing, but there's nothing we can do about it, and why shouldn't they get paid so much? actors get paid millions and people barely bat an eyelid, footballers get paid millions and everyone's up in arms abut it. Why? it's the same sort of thing, they went into a profession that people pay money to see them. As such they get an inflated wage, it's always going to happen, Sky merely accelerated the growth, it would always have happened, and for the record, putting games on Sundays and Fridays, just means that people like me, get to watch more games on a weekend, what's wrong with that? We no longer have to watch one game in a weekend, we now get to watch 4 or 5, many of which are higher quality than we see live.

Just because you think yourself too honorable to use sky, doesn't mean you get to sit on a high horse and berate those that just love the game, and wish to see more of it over a weekend.

Sky didn't ruin football. Football ruined football.

 

Sky has ruined football no more or less. The reason that it costs 20 odd quid to watch Barnsley in division 3 is indirectly to facilitate Rooney's pay packet and the overpaid journeymen below that. It has priced people out of attended and 'spread the word' to the prawn sandwich brigade who have little or no interest in the game itself.

If you want to watch that's obviously your choice. But don't moan about how much it costs to watch us or any other team because you're part of the problem.


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Players wages are obscene and it is paid by fans through increased prices across every aspect of the game - so much so that many fans have been priced out of the game. If you think a player is worth £300k per week then fine that's your opinion but ask yourself this when you're working hard to pay your mortgage - does Rooney deserve in a week what the people who pay his wages earns in about 12 years? Comparisons with actors and musicians is a very flawed argument and really cant be applied to a debate about players wages. The main problem is that it has a cascade effect on the lower leagues so bang average championship players believe they are entitled to earn £10 / £15 k per week and more in some cases. This problem is a direct result of Sky controlling football.

 

How exactly has Sky increased ticket prices?

If it wasn't for the massive amount they pay to televise games ticket prices would be even higher.

 

Best way to both hate and enjoy Sky?

Do what I do. Live streaming.

Not only do you get to enjoy their ridiculously over-hyped and expensive shows, you get to do it for nowt, so hitting them in their pockets.

End of Fred.

 

It's free every day mate. Not paid for Sky for nigh on 10 years now.

 

Sky has pumped in billions, agents and players have demanded increasingly bigger slices of the pie, wages have increased exponentially as a result. Other revenue streams have increased - merchandise, sponsorship deals and ticket prices. Somebody posted an interesting article on here recently showing just how inflated ticket prices have become since the early 90's and even with inflation factored in they have increased significantly.

 

Sky greatly improved coverage of football in this country, before them there was only one live game a week on a Sunday.

And whilst I don't like the hype they've brought it isn't them who've ruined the game, it's the players huge wages whicfh have put the ticket prices up and lead to so many clubs going into admin so blame Jimmy Hill, Jean-Marc Bosman, the European Court of Justice and football agents.

You could also blame all-seater stadia (and therefore SY Police), Gazza for crying in Italia 90/ Nick Hornby for writing Fever Pitch/ the rise of ecstasy, all to blame for the middle classes taking to football in a big way and allowing clubs to charge more for tickets.

 

Without Sky some other company would have the control they do now. I think folks did well out of their 24 hours of free sport. Many footie games, Masters Tennis from Ohio semi finals, Brook fight plus undercard, day 2 of the England test and plenty more besides. Sky Sports per month is about the same as one pay on the day match at Oakwell. Based on that and if you add the Sky Sports sport from today of more football, Masters final, day 3 of the test etc you got your monthly Sky Sports package value within a weekend easily.

 

There was a debate on TV yesterday morning about ticket prices. An interesting point was put forward that for many clubs in the Premier League ticket prices are just a small proportion of overall income, so TV money, merchandise, corporate sponsorship etc being by far the bulk of their income. it was even put forward that it wouldn't matter to clubs, from a financial perspective, if fans stopped going. but, that being the case, then it wou'd make more sense if clubs just reduced prices then.

 

Imagine how much folks would complain if they paid the price of an NFL season ticket that's just for eight games

 

Aye, but then, providing there's no blackout, you'd get all your teams games on telly.