Freedom of movement o/t

The idea of free movement between Russia and Belarus is the same as between Scotland and England if Scotland won independence - its not exactly some great leap in thought.

 

My point is about movement of people only, not tariffs.

 

Yeh...but blue passports and sovereignty n all that ..like....looking forward to the utopia that is the world of the WTO

 

I think it depends on a skill set required by the host country whether that be us or any other country, if we require scientists, teachers, joiners etc etc and we cant recruit within our nation then absolutely recruit from overseas and welcome them in with open arms. I also believe that anybody going to reside in ANY eu country or any where in the world should have either proof of work/ or be able to financially support themselves ( I do not include asylum seekers/ refugees in this)

 

Interesting approach but without migrant labour we’d be as short of warehouse staff as we are teachers.

 

i think if the common market had remained what we were sold in 1975 then this thread and all the talk of brexit would be non existant,,the various treaties like maastricht and lisbon have created unrest throughout europe, both were faced with vigorous debate here and both prompted calls for a referendum on our membership,

imo there was no need for the extra layer of government,ie' the eu parliament , when all we were doing was open trade deals, you could even have 'free' movement of citizens from members who were trading with each other without the need for the european parliament ,

 

both your examples are required, every warehouse and large manufacturing place i visit are filled with eastern european labour, they simply could not exist without them.

 

True, I think alot of that is down to many workshy of our own, the many conversations i have had with many eastern Europeans is that they think many of us Brits are bone idol

 

Wouldn’t it be good if the numbers made sense of that.

I’m not suggesting that there aren’t some bone idle Brits, and even with the large amount of migrant labour, our productivity is poor.

but unemployment is fairly low, and to replace foreign workers we’d need to employ several million ‘sick’ people as well as all our unemployed. And that’s notwithstanding the education and training costs associated with that.

but - apparently we just need to ‘get behind the country’ and believe that we can succeed and all of these hard issues will just disappear.

I predict that post Brexit the number of foreign workers won’t change dramatically until there’s an economic downturn and at that point some will leave - but unemployment amongst British workers will rise.

if you’re Latvian and you lose your warehouse job in Donny, and there’s no obvious sign of a replacement job nearby, the obvious move is to a different EU country or back home.

if you’re from Donny, you’re far less likely to move to Germany or Latvia for similar work.