Gaza Reoccupation

It's a valid point if October 7th hadn't happened would the current dire situation that's happening in Gaza have happened. Did Hamas care about what may happen to the citizens of Gaza when they decided to poke the bear.

 

Don't think he is, even though whats happening in Gaza is sickening, the root cause of this conflict happening now is terrorism and Hamas need to release the Israeli people they kidnapped then surely Isreal have no more reasons to carry on doing what they are doing ?

 

I don't think anyone is arguing that Hamas shouldn't release hostages. But do you really think that if they release them then it all stops? Are you aware of the actions of Israel prior to 7 October 2023?

 

If the hostages are released, Israel will continue to do what it’s been doing well before Oct 7. The Israelis have been, and are, seizing Palestinian land in contravention of international law for for decades. Thousands of Palestinians were imprisoned and killed by Israelis prior to October 7. The Israeli military prior to October 7 regarded the Gaza strip as nothing more than 'an open-air concentration camp.' They’d frequently go in and kill whenever they saw fit. The Ultra far Right maniacs won't stop now. Genocide.

 

Why are israel allowed to do whatever they want for 80 years (they’ve committed far worse atrocities than what happened on October 7th every single year for decades) but none of that can possibly be justification for Oct 7th but Oct 7th is justification for anything israel does?

 

The notion that Israel would “have no more reason” to attack Gaza if hostages were released overlooks the broader reality that violence and occupation didn’t begin on October 7. The Israeli military presence, tens of thousands of deaths, the expansion of settlements in the West Bank, and the inhumane treatment of Palestinians - including in East Jerusalem - have been happening long before this current escalation.

Of course, Hamas’ actions, including the October 7 attack and holding hostages, are indefensible and must be condemned. But reducing the current situation to just “Hamas started it” erases decades of history and suffering.

Hamas have governed Gaza for 18 years. The Palestinian Authority controls part of the West Bank. Israel has historically weakened the Palestinian Authority and avoided strengthening it as a peace partner, while tolerating - or even indirectly enabling - Hamas’ control of Gaza. Because a divided Palestinian leadership (Hamas in Gaza, PA in West Bank) means there is no unified body to negotiate peace with. This allows Israel to avoid serious peace talks and continue expanding settlements in the West Bank without pressure for a two-state solution.

Ehud Barak (former Prime Minister of Israel):“Strengthening Hamas at the expense of the Palestinian Authority has been the policy of Netanyahu.”

Avigdor Lieberman (former Israeli Defense Minister): “Israel’s policy is to keep Hamas alive and kicking.”

In essence, Netanyahu has used Hamas to his and the Zionist regime’s benefit. They are now moving into the final stages of their master plan. Enabled (regardless of the lip service on show) by governments across the world. And I can assure you, the rise of the far right in this and other countries is entirely linked.

Bit of an essay. My apologies.

 

I didn't say it was allowed what they are doing is no different to what the Nazis did to the Jews in the 1930s and 40s and like the German population are the Israeli population should be ashamed of what's being done in their name but that doesn't absolve Hamas of their responsibility in all this they care no more about the general Palestinian population than Netanyahu does. The whole region is a cesspit of religious and sectarian hatred either between religions or between sects of the same religion. The world would be a much better place if people stopped believing in the sky fairies of whatever variety they worship and stop listening to the zealots that preach the hatred flowing from those beliefs.

 

This is about land not religion. Russia’s war against Ukraine is about land. The Ukrainians have no right to exist on their land. The Palestinians have no right to exist on their land. The Ukrainians must be killed or become Russian. The Palestinians must be killed or removed from their land.

The cesspit of hatred that is apparent in this country is full of people who think others have no right to be on their land.

 

Religion created the original divide. it may be all about land now but the means used time and again to whip up the hatred is the other sides beliefs be it Jew against Muslim Christian against Hindu Shia islam against ***** islam Protestant against Catholic.