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    Good post some good points. Agree with what you say about the work shy population that the benefits system encourages.
    Also I think the NHS has quite alot of issues and could save money if it was better run.
    I also think we could learn alot from Australia's immigration laws.
     
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    Are you a Reform subscriber then?

    What are Reform's policies on the NHS - insurance funded model like the USA?
    What's the policy on renewable energy in light of the fact that it is one of the few bits of the economy that is boosting our GDP?
    What exactly is the policy on immigration? Getting the Royal Navy to break the international laws of the sea?
    How do Reform 2025 PLC subscribers go about changing "party" policies if they don't like them?
    When Fartage has screwed up by supporting his great buddy the orange one, how will Reform 2025 PLC subscribers get rid of him?
     
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    Great post.
     
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    I don't think the benefit system encourages people to be work shy, I think it's more that the state of the economy disincentivises people from working. Benefits should be at least enough to survive on, I don't think anyone reasonable would argue with that. Wages should be more than that, and should enable a better standard of living. Minimum and low wages don't do that these days, look at house prices, rent and the cost of basically anything, plus the fact working might necessitate childcare and other expenses.

    So if working for a living doesn't carry the benefits it should then it's not surprising if people opt out.
     
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    I think benefits should be a safety net for people who find themselves out of work for whatever reason. Not a long term option.
    If your able to work but chose not to after say 4 months you should be made to do community work.
     
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    100% I am, £25 a year on a repeat subscription, soon be over 3 million I reckon
     
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    Racist ? What a moronic post you absolute dimwit.
     
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    Out of interest, what is your view on the former head of Reform UK Wales and long-time Farage associate Nathan Gill being accused of 8 counts of bribery (in court next month) and of working for Russia?
     
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    Please stop conflating immigration, illegal immigration and asylum seeking. These are vastly different groups of people.

    Legal immigrants - the vast majority - pay a small fortune for a visa, an NHS surcharge and have to earn a minimum amount to get in. This means that they pay more taxes and contribute more towards the services they use than a "native" person earning the same amount. Even those that don't earn - like students - contribute to the economy and account for around 10% of all British exports.

    Asylum seekers have to be processed, but they are checked as part of the process before being accepted or denied a claim. Once accepted, they can work and contribute. Perhaps they could be used to do community work while waiting for their claim to be processed, but that would cost us more than the £9/week we give them in cash to do nothing.

    Illegal immigration is an unknown. This is mainly people who walk in through the airport with a valid visa and don't leave. We don't have a number on these, but there could be 1 million and some are involved with crime.
     
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    They don't get £9 per week. They receive £49.18 per week, loaded onto a prepaid debit card. What a life.
     
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    So, do you have any answers to my questions?
     
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    Sack him, jail him and whip him in the village square, however, atm he's accused, if after the court case he is found guilty then my opinion stands.
    I am not the type to defend If someone is a lovely person just because he was from a party I support, a lovely person is a lovely person regardless of rossette,
    Just like many Labour voters will be outraged with that MP who as been jailed for 10 weeks for assaulting a constituent. every party as cnuts, Labour as Racheal from accounts
     
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    No, I've seen enough on here and witnessed pile ons and grown blokes having meltdowns and spilling there spaghetti hoops down there vests because someone as a different mindset, so I'll pass on engaging with you tar very much, appologies for your long drawn out multiple Q@As not been answered
     
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    Don't think they could do community work they would have to be vetted and have a crb check to do that. And they don't get 9 pound a week either.
     
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    Fair enough mate. We can still support the same footy team even if we're oceans apart politically.
     
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    No problem Brush, I get we are all different politically, and people have there own mindsets and outlooks, thanks for the grown up reply mate
     
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    If an asylum seeker pays for food, they get £49.18 per week. If their accommodation includes meals, they get £8.86 per week.

    All on gov.uk for anyone to read.
     
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    So much wrong with that last paragraph mate.
    1 Not a long-term option - benefits are for some. They're essential for the person to maintain dignity.
    2 If you're able to work - who the hell decides that?
    3 Choosing not to work - that's your assumption that people make that decision. I could equally assume that nobody 'chooses' not to work
    4 Made to do community service - if they can't or won't work how would that pan out? What benefits to the community would there be? What agency would enforce it?

    Your first sentence was your best.
     
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    I know. Must be bliss. £7 a day.
     

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