get the sponging dole bastads to work yessssss made my day that has

Of course it is..

But what do the "poor" do? Join in the moral crusade against the jobless scum and stick with the satus quo

 

Making up figures to suit your claim..How do you know

what the ratio is for genuine claimants to Scroungers as you call them??

 

But under the proposed plan Acky's fiance would be better off wouldn't she?

Getting out of the house doing some meaningful work for her money would surely aid her in overcoming depression as social interaction has got to be a good thing for someone with depression. (not a dig at your fiance acky)

 

all we need now....

is to get all those non domicile types to pay their taxes, clamp down on tax avoidance and turn all the country's churches, mosques, synagogues and pirate ships into housing - marvelous.

the only thing left would be have every politician and their advisors followed around with cameras all day and all night, so we know exactly where they are and what they're up to.

 

the truth is perhaps somewhere in the middle ground

with Redstar(Trotskyite) on one site and Dragon(Enoch/Tebbit) ont tuther.

 

2 million was quoted by David Freud

it was in the sky news report on the web

 

I never said it was new

Neither is choosing not to work. Immigration IS encouraged by job opportunities, I don't think you can argue against that can you?

 

And that was an "estimate"...

a guess in any other words

 

RE: Not great..

the amount of people in the US living off food stamps has gone up massively in the past year. to be born poor in the US is almost a sure fire way to make your life a misery. Land of Opportunity my arse.

 

RE: Of course it is..

yes BUT...those on lower incomes tend to cost the State more through...education ('educating' their tribes of bairns) NHS (following Friday night brawls and domestics) Policing, street cleaning and Maintenance!

 

So if they know there's 2 million fraudsters or

non-genuine claimants, why are their 2 million. Again people plucking figures out of the ait to back-up what they're saying.

 

RE: So you put them all into 1 category and call them sponging Barstewards..you're unreal

well if they shouldn't be then yes sponging bastads is what they are

 

That bloke Dragon quotes was making an estimate..

like I can estimate that some people looking at this BBS now alos have another web page open with porn on it

 

are you peeping thru my window

:$

 

RE: Of course it is..

yes, cos the middle class just nick staplers from work.

/irony off

 

Did he say how many tax fiddler/evaders there are.. and

How many of those were big businesses/money people. Did he also mention they cost the treasury at least 10 times what so called benifit fraud does. Oh & by the way. My figures were taken from the leader of My uniion Mark Sewotka of the the PCS.

 

It was an estimate.

Some of it was bound to be right

 

that is a different issue

and completely irrelevant to this specific debate!

 

RE: Did he say how many tax fiddler/evaders there are.. and

look no-one is going to care about the rich pricks, they earn their money fair and square!

/irony off

 

I'm not sure I understand your logic

Because one crime/morally wrong action is being done then that means another is ok too?

Because somebody who is rich is not paying tax then that means that John down the road should not work?

I'm going out to break into an old womans house later because somebody got away with murder this morning and at the end of the day my crime isn't as bad.