Governments idea re benefit fraudsters

The ones earning 70 grand a year paying less tax than an employee on 20

yeah, thems the fellas.

The ones "contracting" to the same company for 2 years plus.

The ones that put their weekly shop on expenses, all their fuel, claiming they live away from home when in fact they rent out their properties and pay **** all tax on the rent.

I've known quite a few in my time.

 

Because the super rich who can afford to AVOID tax...

make the likes of the rest of us pay more!

 

That's evasion though which is illegal. nt

 

Their accountants clearly dont think so. nt

 

Correct

but it isn't illegal !

 

Their accountants migher think so...

but choose to ignore their advice.

 

RE: Their accountants clearly dont think so. nt

Their accountants are legally obliged to report any schemes they think may be illegal such as those. If they don't, the accountants themselves are committing a criminal offence.

I suspect that in these cases the accountants don't know anything about it at all. If they did, they would report it without hesitation.

 

if that happens larg swaves of liverpool, Newcaslte and south Yorkshire will be fecked.

 

Well they're bent then

and I'm not defending that.</p>

 

Not having a go Dave

But accountants of some of my contracting acquaintances appear to be complicit in their manipulations of the system.

"Limited Companies" with one employee and one employer clearly undertaking highly paid jobs for little more than the minimum wage then substantial a dividend.

I think the umbrella company scam was put to the sword but little seems to have changed.

 

I am sorry to hear about your friend's plight. However, that is a very specific example and if anything, provides us with further evidence that the current system needs a complete overhall.My wife is a GP and tells me first hand about the inadequecies of the current system in place, dealing day in day out with people on the take.

There are a lot of people taking advantage of a very weak system.

 

Any way, Goodnight all. Hope those tax returns pass your high moral muster

 

ah but what you you have posted is completely within the law

provided they aren't caught bt the anti aviodance legislation relating to personal service companies 'IR35' the most unworkable piece of crap ever written

 

Conservatives won't care whether they hurt genuinely vulnerable people or those that are getting away with benefit fraud - they'll just slash the amount of benefit available to everyone and in all probability, they'll cause more harm to those that genuinely need help, than generate benefit to society at large. They won't give a **** though - they'll just publish a figure about how much money has been 'saved'.

I'm all for people who cheat the system getting found out - really I am - but I think we all know how the Conservatives will go about this exercise, and the fact that they won't bother to do the job properly.

 

But that does not make it right...

seeing as most laws in this contry exist to serve the rich it is not likely to be anyway....

 

Good points mate

Why not organise them into squads to go round removing graffiti? This has the added benefit of making the Graffiti artists feel good because they are providing the unemployable with valued work.

 

**** me backwards

http://www.barnsleyfc.org.uk/bbs/fo...33&highlight=contract&highlightmode=1#M982090

Doesn't take much for this leapord to change it's spots.

 

umbrella companies are alive and kicking nt

 

umbrella companies are alive and kicking nt

 

£21.5 billion worth of uncollected tax and £25 billion lost through tax evasion

http://www.politics.co.uk/opinion-formers/press-releases/opinion-former-index/economy-and-finance/pcs-billions-in-tax-going-uncollected-warns-union-$1250704$364840.htm