had a walk around town at lunch.

I was reading the other day about a movement called "healthy at every size" which maintains that there is no correlation between weight and health and advocates for "intuitive eating" (i.e. eating whatever you fancy, because if you crave it then obviously your body needs it). Barmy.

I'm all for body positivity, but there's a fine line between that and normalising obesity.

 

I know a fair few Dad's who are good blokes who have basically been blocked out of spite from seeing kids for long periods.
In a world of battles for equality I think this is a rare area where men get the short end of the stick.

 

you could do a veggie one with a plate of mash on it

 

Or a vegan one with... No, forget it. I've no idea what vegans eat.

 

I’ve known loads of people who worked for the CSA, the whole family/divorce/custody situation is an absolute sh itshow.

Quick anecdote:
A mate at work got caught playing away, and the day after at work he asked my advice.
I told him, try to keep civil no matter what, don’t go to a solicitor- no matter how strong the urge, just push to maintain a conversation as civilly as you can.

Next day he went to see a solicitor! They were separated for 3 months, and the total legal bill was in excess of £10k, and this is the early noughties. Basically they missed out on several years holidays cos the solicitors had no interest in anything other than keeping them at each other’s throats.

The whole process nowadays is supposed to encourage people into arbitration but I’ve seen no evidence to suggest it works, highly likely its massively underfunded and the fallout costs all of us much more than the investment would.

 

nuts, a big monkey nut

 

I'm not fattist, I'm stoutist.

 

No the arbitration process is as bad as you are guessing. A friend of mine went through it all and while it did avoid a legal bill it left him at the mercy of his ex. It took a couple if years for her to get over it all and put the little lad first. That's time he's never going to get back.
Basically they made arrangements she then didn't stick to them and the recourse to this was more arbitration.

 

I don't post very often but felt I need to on this one. I'm almost 65 and up until a couple of years ago I was handling my weight fairly well, but then cancer came and 37 sessions of radiotherapy, which I know others on here have endured. The radiotherapy was ok, but the following treatment of oestrogens meant weight gain. After that I had blood clots on my lungs which slowed me down quite a lot. Shielding didn't help either. I've elected, against medical advice, to cut short the oestrogen treatment because I felt embarrassed about the weight gain. When and where should I apply for my Porky Passport.

 

Although the OP may say some in jest I agree with a lot of his sentiments . I grew up in a house with very little money but we always had a decent healthy meal . My mother PRIORITISED and went without other non essentials.. The meals were nothing extravagant but simple meat and 2 veg!! Relatively cheap .. brisket mainly.
We were all slim and healthy.

Roll on 20 years. A lot of people don't cook any more they eat fast food ( more expensive) and are " generally" lazy.

Some have unfortunate conditions which means they can't control their weight but I fear these are in the minority.

When we talk about poverty are we talking about the scenes in India or Africa or are we talking about the lack of the latest version of a phone or Xbox or a pack of cigs.

There seems to be an excuse for everything these days.

I'm afraid there is an ever growing lazy section of society looking for excuses to blame our health upon and don't like it when this is pointed out to them (we mustn't do that!).

A simple healthy meal isn't expensive it just means you have to get off your arse to make it.

 

I bet I know way more that fail to pay for their kids!

 

Did your mother also work full time?

It's not simple to cook a full meal every night when in many cases it's a single parent household with many even having to work multiple jobs. It's not always laziness that's the reason. Admittedly it sometimes is, but the vast majority of people either don't have time or don't have the money to cook every night and have to rely on cheaper and/or quicker alternatives such as cheap ready meals or fast food.

The world has changed a lot in the last 20 years and we'd be in a far better position if people acknowledged that and stopped equating the issues that people face right now with how it was in the past.

 

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I guess you're a younger member and I'm telling old war stories!!
In answer to your question yes my mother worked full time as a cleaner at a local school and she came home to cook me and my 2 brothers a meal every evening. Believe it or not she told us to help and clean up afterwards. We did things together and it worked. Even a bit if manual labour thrown in !! She never complained she was happy to feed and look after us.

This maybe a generation issue granted but my point is you can make do on a limited budget on food far less expensive than takeaways if you've got the inclination to do it .
You may think I'm harsh but I see a lot of slobs ....many single parents tend to do far more for their kids.

 

I'm in my mid 30s. I remember those times, I'm just able to acknowledge that the world has changed a lot since then and that a parent who works full time and doesn't get home until 6pm every isn't going to be able to cook a meal every night without spending a fortune.

 

I’m sure you do. Not really relevant to what he said though is it?

 

why not?

 

Because he’s talking about individual cases of good men he knows. You then decided to make a sweeping statement that isn’t helpful to anyone.
We know a lot of men are lovely people.

 

There was a sweeping statement about single mums that started this discussion. I'm not denying there are plenty of decent Dads but I also know of a lot that present as doting dads but actually the reality is very different.

 

The answer is probably education. Teach kids more about nutrition, calories etc. at school