Hard working people

Sorry Dodworth must have missed that bit where Labour MPs were baying to cut benefits to the most vulnerable in our society

 

The problem is Marlon is that there is little difference on far too many policies with the major parties..or at least not as much difference for my liking.. revolution in politics is what we need..

 

Very few.

 

That's all myth Dodworth lad constantly beamed by the rich owned media establishment disguised in their freepress cloaks. There's a world of difference and if you can't tell the difference in the atmosphere provided at present by laughing lord haha and his cronies(coalition partners) then I can't comment any further


Agree about revolution though

 

You're right Dodeth, I know we shouldn't look backwards but to me, what we ( the working class majority ), need is a new party with similar ambitions as the 1945 labour party led by men of courage and principle. Unfortunatly in this me me me society we live in it won't happen.

 

Without a doubt Marlon we are being oppressed and brain washed.. by the corrupt paedophilia protecting BBC..............QUOTE=Marlon;1406323]That's all myth Dodworth lad constantly beamed by the rich owned media establishment disguised in their freepress cloaks. There's a world of difference and if you can't tell the difference in the atmosphere provided at present by laughing lord haha and his cronies(coalition partners) then I can't comment any further


Agree about revolution though[/QUOTE]

 

Cameron, lost the plot.

Hate,

Come.

Piss,

 

It seems as though there is a lot of common ground here even if my politics are a little more right wing than yours. By the way I am not and never have been a supporter of Thatcher; I was well brought up by good hard working parents and I have working class values engrained in my soul. I just think the last 'New' Labour government did a hell of a lot of damage yet they seem to avoid a lot of criticism and escape any kind of blame, which I sometimes find incredible. All my opinion of course.

 

What I've heard about them is they set people on a 3 month trial period but then find an excuse at the end of it to get rid so they don't have to provide paid holiday etc.

Trouble is, the economy being what it is, people are just having to take what is available. Many people taking jobs that aren't at their skill level. I've just accepted a job in a call centre having been made redundant from a well paid IT job.

 

You can't blame labour. It's the nasty Tory's fault.

Labour seemingly have got away with very little criticism from the masses for the last few years of their reign.

They've done untold damage to the country's economy you could argue almost on a par as the thatcher years.

 

No you couldn't.

 

You're right Mario about the last lot but even they did some good for the working class, the minimum wage was probably at the top, if not for that then your son would be working for £1.50 per hour, they dragged the NHS back from the brink of death and put money into improving the condition of the hospitals and then they oversaw the long overdue building of new schools. Schools in particular fared badly under the tories, they were left to rot to a point were massive rebuilding had to be done. On the other side they left a lot of thatcherite policies in place, especially the banking reforms she brought in and actually added to which caused the present crisis, they should also have altered the course of social housing and started to build new council houses with affordable rents. Browns treatment of pension fund taxation was also shocking, but the tory deregulation of pensions caused more damage. I think you and I basically want similar things for the country but differ on the way to achieve it.

 

What Kev said !

I'm no supporter of Blair and his cronies but they cannot be compared to the long standing damage caused by the tories in their last period in power.


and I'm not defending politically motivated union leaders either.

 

We'll still be dealing with the ***** from bliar for the next decade.

They aren't as bad as they haven't systematically destroyed the entire heavy industry like the Tories however, they screwed up huge swaves of the manufacturing sector wanting Britain to be a giant call centre.

 

Whilst I agree with your assertion that the country has increased the number of jobs in call centres, I can't see how this has 'screwed up swaves (sic) of the manufacturing sector'.

Surly that was the aim of Mrs T who openly espoused the idea that Britain should be a service based economy ?

 

The wages are above minimum wage and they've given out bonuses of over a grand this christmas, they also actively recruit everywhere because they need the staff. Go on the job seekers site in this country and you'll find dozens of ads, all in english asking for applicants. If they need to advertise abroad as well to fill the gaps then its hardly their fault that there are so many people in Barnsley unwilling to do a day's work is it

 

Hard working people - don't make me laugh Cameron is a b*****d relation of the Queen, he has never had to do a hard days work in his life, I weep at the state of the LAbour party, but at least they have some people who still come from the real world.

 

Like I said, it was only hearsay, but the guy who told me also said that an ex work mate off his who had a management job at BMBC applied for a managers job there and the salary was £22k, not a lot for a responsible job. A previous poster said that people are given short term contracts then "got rid of" to save on holiday pay. How much above min wage do they pay. I don't know but what happens to people who take jobs on short term contracts then "got rid of", can they go straight back on the dole or do they have to wait a set period of time before they can claim again.

 

you are right what you say about labour improving hospitals and building new schools,but its all public money took from a purse that is empty.I personally lay much of the blame with the tories for obliterating all our heavy industries and manufacturing,mainly to weaken the trade unions.
however I also firmly believe that labour didn't do anything for the said industries either,leading me to think that they indeed do all pi55 in the same pot.I cannot see how this country will ever get out of debt and increase our wealth without major manufacturing,service industries cant create much wealth,not when they are selling and distributing goods from abroad,the main profit producer has already been paid out.The finance sector was what all the previous governments banked on for making us tick and look what happened there.Mark my words we'll be no better off in 10 years or even 20 for that matter and it wont make any difference who is in government.

 

I'm not sure what happens with regards claiming JSA after being 'got rid of' to be honest. The wages are £6.41-£7.69 depending on which shift you work and everyone is set on on temporary contracts and all the rubbish is got rid of after that (or before) but they do actually give permanent contracts to anyone who puts the effort in.

£22k might not seem a lot but for a line managers job in a warehouse that's not bad at all.