Here we go, Radio Sheffs response

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  1. Spa

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    hogwash

    does not even make sense.
     
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    of course it does
     
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    Which bit doesn't make sense? nt
     
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    A few things dont stack up

    we said

    "First there is the nationally agreed rate for a commentary paid to all clubs by their local radio stations, which is £594.00 to the home team and £357.00 to the away team. These fees are non-negotiable and apply to all clubs."

    They said
    The first issue is commentary rights. The commentary deal proposed by Barnsley FC for this season was way in excess of what the BBC was prepared to pay, at a time when we need to deliver value for money for our license fee payers ...
    and
    Following the rejection of our offer for season long commentary rights, we have offered to pay for commentary rights per game at a fee agreed nationally by the BBC and the Football League, but this has been rejected by Barnsley FC

    also

    We said
    The second and more flexible element is the fee for access to the club, management and players for information, comments and interviews. This is fundamentally the issue

    They said
    "The BBC never pays extra for access to any club for interviews – just like other broadcasters and newspapers. We note that Barnsley FC continue to give access to other media organisations, both broadcast and print, who do not have a commentary deal and indeed may never have had one in the past.


    Finally
    We said
    We have been informed that the offers made to other local teams in the same division are at least 3.5 times larger than the one made to us.

    They said

    "It is untrue to suggest that our commentary offers to the two Sheffield clubs was 3.5 times larger than the one made to Barnsley and we have asked them to remove this claim from their official website.

    at least one of the above is telling porkies.
     
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    RE: Their statement from BBC website

    The thing that grates with me is the underlying arrogance, that they are doing us a favour by covering the matches.

    They are a public service broadcaster ffs whose only raison d'etre is to serve the people paying for their existence, through the licence fee.

    Some of their points are fair enough but don't address the main issue.

    At the end of the day all they need to do is make exactly the same offer to Barnsley as they have to the two Sheffield clubs.
     
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    Your last sentence

    I dont think they do need to make exactly the same offer. The 2 sheffield clubs have a larger fan base, and undobutedly more listeners /licence fee payers are sheffield supporters than Barnsley supporters, so covering slightly more Sheffield matches isnt unreasonable

    Your other points are valid though
     
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    The two statements certainly don't make good bed fellows

    It sounds to me as though Radio Sheffield offer local clubs a certain amount to cover games for the entire season rather than pay the fixed matchly rate.
     
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    saved me the effort

    The BFC statement and the deedah resoponses are incongruous. The points raised by BFC have not been directly contradicted by deedah - they have attempted to fog the issues IMHO. I doubt they will publish the figures that they are paying to Deedah clubs over the season in comparison to what they have offered us. If they were intending commentating on less BFC games are they reducing the number of pigs games? and if not why?
     
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    actually

    the number of fans should have **** all to do with it - its more to do with the number of licence payers in each area. Sheffield 520,000 lets say 260,000 each club Barnsley 226,000 so marginally less.
     
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    I'm going to start listening to Radio Sheffield

    just so that I can stop listening to them!
     
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    RE: Their statement from BBC website

    If as radio Sheffield stated, it is a question of value for money then surely radio Sheffield are paying way over the odds to both Sheffield clubs. maybe the answer is to save money by not covering the more expensive teams and concentrating on the higher number of so called smaller clubs, who lets not forget when combined together have by far the greater audience potential than either of the Sheffield clubs. Is radio Sheffield a regional station as they like us to believe?
     
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    RE: Your last sentence

    Wether we like it or not, the two Sheffield clubs will get more coverage than us, have a bigger fan base than little o'l Barnsley and will be given more money because their clubs are more expensive to run. (According to the bigwig on the radio tonight.) It's the fans who will loose out on this fiasco, so come on Radio Sheffield and BFC get your heads together for the sake of us fans, stop throwing dummies out of the prams and come to some agreement for the sake of the thousands of Barnsley fans who listen to this station for commentries and news about their beloved club. FFS. (doh)
     
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    Good for them

    Really dont care, im sure we can sort something else out, Perhaps even so we have more of our away games covered, always hated that radio dee dah put any home games on at all, with the exception of derby matchs, apparantly its costs, but they do seem to follow the sheffield clubs aroun but when we are away its live from scummel lane with wendys on MW
     
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    Just sent an email to Football League

    asking them to clarify what the position is regarding payment for commentary etc.
     
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    You're right it doesn't

    Well, not to me anyway....
     
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    RE: Your last sentence

    Agreed, they need to offer a proportionately similar sum - but they don't even seem to be doing that.

    They will have more listeners in Sheffield but still claim to be BBC South Yorkshire on their website, so ought to be trying to even things out.
     
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    RE: Good for them

    if we have to move to another station i hope it,s a bbc station cos dearne is a pile of *****,micky mouse station.
     
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    My opinion -

    There's always two sides to every story and both sides probably have fair and reasonable arguments - just hope they can both negotiate for the good of the fans. Surely if they don't - everyone stands to lose?
     
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    RE: Good for them

    Last season when we had an away game ,logistically too far to travel unless going early in the morning they chose to cover one of the Sheffield home games and their stance at that time was equal shares of away matches for the commentary team and we would get our fair share of match commentaries even though the away game for the same team had been covered previously ,on air excuse was cost of commentating on away games and were limited by their budget , greater or lesser fan base did not come into the equation. tonight they admitted that this did and we would not be on equal footings with the two Sheffield teams due to this reason by virtue of a larger listening audience.
    Criteria regarding interviews during last season tended to look on the negative side ,looking for faults rather than highlight the positive sides as well which I'm' sure did not do a lot to promote football from the Barnsley view point, where the manager would then be willing to talk to radio Sheffield.
    If we got more positive as well as negative Balanced interviews maybe it would encourage fans on the fringe to come down to oakwell,
    Bottom line this is the the federal republic of south Yorkshire football with three clubs in the championship deserve to be respected not denigrated and all treated equally on all footings.
     
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    Incongruous

    :D

    I love that word...
     

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