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  1. *Windy

    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    He's taken stick because of his appalling scoring record full stop.

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    Nobody doubts his effort and enthusiasm or that he's a nice lad.</p>

    JCR on the other hand, whoI would say is a tad darker, is the board sweetheart.</p>
     
  2. Sup

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    I think you've hit the nail on the head there

    Defenders in the football championship hate black people and nigerians which is why they keep stopping Odejayi from shooting. I was going to say goalkeepers but the useless bugger doesnt actually shoot at the keeper nevermind the net.

    At the end of the day barnsley fans are not the reason that odejayi is ****
     
  3. Jay

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    That's not what you said at all

    You didn't say there is a small element in the Barnsley crowd that could be racist. I wouldn't disagree at all. But you didn't say that. You said there is more than an element of racism when it comes to how people view Odejayi. There's a massive difference in those two statements. What you said applies to the crowd as a whole and suggests racism in us all. If you didn't mean it then fair enough, but that is what you implied.
     
  4. Sup

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    JCR cant be dark skinned

    that wouldn't fit with the argument.

    Howard, Colgan, Van Homoet, Leon etc must all be black because during davey's reign all of them have been slated.
     
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    Is Odejayi fast then??? nt
     
  6. Sup

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    Because you had

    You said that people who don't like odejayi as a player have a racist element about them.

    You stated that people boo him, didn't wish him luck at scunny and hope for him coming back etc and ended your statement with "Thats why i say what i say, and that is, there is an element of racism without doubt"
     
  7. Swi

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    He has Windy from the majority of fans who wouldn't dream of ever being the 'R' word,many of which

    post on here, indeed i believe some of the most tuned in Barnsley fans who watch the game as i do are regular contributors to this board.

    However there are few who may / may not post on here have definate singled him out for more darker (wrong choice of word) murkier reasons.

    Well i think that concludes my lunchtime ramblings for today, it certainley sparked it up a bit, been dead on here recently

    Think i'll stick to total football posts from here on in.

    p.s not sure about JCR being darker, you sure like?

    :D
     
  8. Swi

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    Sorry apologies to all, was trying to get at there is a small element

    Thanks Jay, the words 'more than' have been used wrong and did in no means, mean to imply that a majority of Barnsley fans or indeed anyone who think's he's rubbish do so because of the colour of his skin / race etc etc. They are 100% football reasons behind their statements and nothing else

    Again apologies for anyone who may have felt offended by a statement that was in no means meant to imply anyone generally.
     
  9. S.M.

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    I'd go a bit further

    and I'd say Barnsley as a football club (reflective of its community) has a much larger and deeper racism problem than other clubs (and towns) of similar size and standing.
     
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    RE: I'd go a bit further

    How do you know that? You would have to go and sit in home ends of other grounds in the country to make a comparison before you could reach that conclusion
     
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    RE: Still think he will make it for us

    You can't teach someone to be a Championship footballer. Players can improve various aspects of their game but ultimately they are good enough or they aren't. Odejayi will never score goals at this level...or any level consistantly in my opinion. It's not only due to his shooting either, he lacks the most basic technique that any other player in our squad posseses. It's like watching a sprinter thrown into a football team. He can only play the way he's facing, struggles to control the ball, can't head with any direction and fluffs easy chances. Other than that he's world beater.

    Noone questions his workrate, attitude. In fact I admire him for it. He's has some stick but continues to battle when he's put on the field. My problem lies with the manager who persisted in playing him. He's not up to football at this level end of story.

    Oh and it's **** all to do with the fact that he's black. He's probably not the worst player to put on a red shirt but he's probably the worst to have played the amount of games he has. Hence the abuse and relief when he was offloaded.
     
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    16 goals for Cheltenham in League 1 season before we signed him

    Suggests that he can indeed score goals regular at 'a level'

    As to what that level is, who knows, maybe i've just answered my own question

    Maybe a better manager, coaches etc could get the best out of him, just a thought like
     
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    RE: Is Odejayi fast then??? nt

    Perhaps on a straight line 30 yard sprint againt a centre half. But how many of those do you get a game?

    Pace over the first 2/3 yards is often just as useful at the top level. Unfortunately, Kayode uses the first 2/3 yards in an attempt to bring the ball under control.
     
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    or nobody has slated him for being offside more than nardiello

    (hidebehindsofa)
     
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    RE: 16 goals for Cheltenham in League 1 season before we signed him

    16 goals in one season is not consistancy. Neither is 30 goals in 150 odd appearances for Cheltenham which I believe was roughly his record.

    It's also got to be taken into account that from his age he should be at his 'peak'. 26/27 is the time most strikers perform best.

    Not good enough, simple as. Brian Clough couldn't make a player out of the lad never mind Davey.
     
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    I base my view

    on the games I've been to and the feedback I've had from other clubs fans. Ive got mates who support Derby and Forest and they tell me that we are the only club singing **** like 'rather be a .... than a scab', for example.
     
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    Is he really that old? thought he was younger

    Agreed about footballing peak though.

    Call me mad, but still believe someone will get best out of him, probs won't be us like
     
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    RE: Is he really that old? thought he was younger

    Think so...could be wrong like.

    He'll find his level, probably League 2. And to be fair he'll be worth his place for effort and general nuisance factor. I'm not convinced he'll ever get goals on a regular basis though even in the pub leagues. I guess it could be argued that he gets in the right places but his body is usually so awkwardly positioned it's harder to score than miss.

    Sounds like I've got a vendetta after these posts to be fair...which I haven't. Genuinely wish him well and I have never booed him. I'm just amazed that anyone who has seen him play regularly can think he's make it at this level. He's an appalling footballer.
     
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    They've never been to a chesterfield game then!
     
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    I think he has pace and strength and normally you only need to add

    a bit of touch and you've got a handful on your hands

    I think your right about being awkward, he lacks the finese you need to trap a ball and smash it in.

    I guess i really had high hopes for him after he surged from halfway line, powered past two Plymouth defenders and slotted it in

    League 1 or 2 and you'll see his name pop up quite a bit on Soccer Saturday i reackon
     

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