Honest response to Poet's post about negativity

Hope you're right about the youngsters. I can't comment too much on them as I only get to see the 1st team games and up to press SD hasn't given youth enough of a chance (IMO). I just fear that this season we will have to throw too many youngsters in at once due to the treadbare nature of the 1st team squad.

 

Yes i do agree we have some great youngsters coming through. But we can't be pinning all our hopes on these because if we do we are screwed. Too much pressure will be applied from the fans, management etc. Still need the 4/5 signings to boost morale and give added depth and creativity to the squad. The youngsters haven't been put in a 'Development Squad' for nothing you know, they are being put in their to develop and help breed them in to the 1st team - not throw them in straight away. With the 7 subs this season their will be more chances for them and hopefully they will be given 15/20 mins off the bench to shine and who knows - they could start and become the next Delph, Naughton, Walker etc.

Would like to see Potter give Kozluk a good run for the LB slot this season, Kozluk hopefully will then know not get complacent and Potter will be their to step in if needed. I'm a great fan of Jamil Adam and i hope he has a decent chance this season - he can't be no worse then Jon Macken who has been awful in Pre-Season and is way past it (N).

 

WE do not have the finaces or the prestige of alot of championship clubs but we have a good set of younger players chomping at th bit, it'll be fine

 

I'm not being funny, but i'm amazed a 12 year old played with the U18s!! Did he not get kicked all over? Especially being a forward-type? Cos i'm sure a lot of opposition defenders would have gone out their way to kick him up in the air!

 

Don't agree with you about Souza at all mate.

A few errors doesn't mean he was 'technically inept', i feel he was a very good Footballer.

On the other hand i totally agree the signings of Darren Ward or Zak Whitbred, both would complement Foster will and build a good partnership. Fair enough Moore can read a game well but he look's to have got slower and more slugish than last season. Said it before and i'll say it again - we'll get caught out many a time with him this season.

 

what i fear Scott, is that the youngsters will be used in the 89th+ minute of play. You know it'll happen.

SD - "it was good for him to get on the pitch"

Even i've been on the pitch! (not at the wolves game tho)

 

i just thought i'd make my 3 posts 4 in a row.....still not got the hang of this (seestars)

 

But if we do sign Gray, Hammill, Adam and a CB.

Preferably Darren Ward, Neil Collins or Jason Shackell then do you think we will improve and move up the table?

I honestly believe we will, those would be 4 great additions and i applaud SD on this basis for going for those 3 Attacking minded players - we just didn't score enough goals last season. A decent CB and i reckong we could improve.

Steele

Hassell
Foster
Ward
Kozluk

Hammill
Anderson
Adam
Campbell-Ryce

Gray
Hume/Bogdanovic

In my honest opinion that team there ^^^ could finish Mid-table easily, come on Davey! Please prove us all wrong.

That being said, none are signed yet and we start at Hillsborough a week a Saturday (shakrhead).

 

barnsley last year had games when they had 5/6 players out. Hopefully that wont happen this season. JCR got injured right before season started. Colace was out. Anderson was out. I also believe that sodje will be a bargain this season and will lean from is uncle akpo and become a really good player. Look at other clubs who have had younger players come through. Cardiff played there's when they where 16/17/18 so did southampton when they had the likes of bale coming through. Im not saying any of barnsley players are that good yet but we never really no. There are also other clubs locally doing this like sheffield united and leeds. barnsley youngsters have all had a good education at other clubs and will be technically fine. Butterfield at man u, hibbert at chelsea, adam at either man city or bolton. RNL as obviously got that mostly sorted as well and does look a future star. i just think they should get a chance.

 

Well he's done that in the past so why would it be differently?

I hope he doesn't do that, wouldn't be fair and not given them a chance what so ever.

He fecked RNL last season, brought him on for a couple of minutes at Ipswich when we were 3-0 down when his job was on the line. Then he brought him on next game for 5 minutes against Donny when we were 4-1 up when he assumed his job was safe. Then fooked him off for the rest of the season, will he pull another stunt like that?

Would be a gutless lovely person if he did, wouldn't put it past out Simon though /poo.

 

A very good footballer?

No, no he wasn't.

Stephen Foster is a 'very good footballer'.

Dennis Souza was average, at best.

 

Basstyke to me it would be harder to play u18 football at 12 than play first team football at 15 nearly 16.

 

not disagreeing with you there Hemsworth. I truly hope we find a few gems this season. But, to be succesful, you need a mix of experience, quality, and youth. And, imho, what we're lacking most just now is quality. Proven quality.

 

i was about to agree, Hemsworth, then thought "Yes, but the older boys can kick harder, and know EXACTLY how to rattle a youngster"

Who knows though, our lads might show em a thing or two. Like Adie Moses when he stepped into Steve Davies's boots...

 

Basstyke but wont players like Adam/RNL have to learn to cope with this. RNL got a bit of kick from one of them hungarians. It was there right midfielder on loan from Sheffield united but it did not seem to bother him.

 

You're right, they need to experience it, but i still think the kids will be used in the last minutes of a game, hence them not getting a few shin twitchers.

 

RE: But if we do sign Gray, Hammill, Adam and a CB.

Agreed that's a decemt looking line up.
A lot has to happen to make it a reality though

 

Good post, but one quibble

"...the fact that come 8/8/09 we will be kicking off the season woefully under strength..."

How do you know this? And if you don't know it, why is it a "fact"? I think we will have a very different squad soon, hopefully by 8th August but if not by 31st August. It's clear that the club are trying very hard to sign players.

All in all though, you make some good points, especially the one about changing the formation. The signs are however, that the lesson has been learned from that, but only time will tell.

 

I think it would be fair to say that any new signing at this stage isn't going to slot straight into the first team without some time needed 'to gel' as they say. So I suspect we will start out with a squad that nobody should really consider full strength, even if all the signings have been made.

It's 8 day until the season starts isn't it? That isn't very long, we've been told today that we won't sign anyone before the Man City game, so I suspect that will mean Monday is the very earliest we could expect a signature. 4-5 days to get up to speed?

 

If Hammill is one

a pre season with Liverpool and the fact that he's played for us before shouldnt prevent him from being put straight in. Same applies maybe to Andranik, if he's another of the 4. With 4 possibly 5 strikers to choose from, maybe any striker signing has a bit longer to settle in. Whether we are capable of scoring goals with what we've got is another matter.

If we were the only club not to have strengthened significantly I'd be worried, but it seems this year the transfer market is very last minute. For example, Roy Keane at Ipswich has money burning a hole in his pocket but hasnt been able to do anything with it, and has spoken of the same frustration that Davey has. I suspect the expectation at Ipswich is top 6 at the very least.

In Davey We Trust.